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		<title>By: AJC @ 7million7years</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJC @ 7million7years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does 'extremely early retirement' HAVE to mean living off a small income?

Not if my experience is any guide: that is, not if you've praciced "extremely rewarding income-producing investment activities" in the ... oh, let's say ... 7 years leading up to your planned "extremely early retirement" date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does &#8216;extremely early retirement&#8217; HAVE to mean living off a small income?</p>
<p>Not if my experience is any guide: that is, not if you&#8217;ve praciced &#8220;extremely rewarding income-producing investment activities&#8221; in the &#8230; oh, let&#8217;s say &#8230; 7 years leading up to your planned &#8220;extremely early retirement&#8221; date.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Austin</title>
		<link>http://earlyretirementextreme.com/2008/03/choosing-a-retirement-plan-for-extremely-early-retirement.html#comment-832</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adfecto, I won't bother to engage you politically on this matter.  You believe what you believe (for now), as do I.  But let's at least sort out a few things:
* most schools, most police, most roads, and most libraries get funding mostly not from Federal income tax
* in your list of 3- or 4-letter guvmint agencies, you seem to have omitted one:  IRS
* you say that "liberty is about having the power to affect [sic] change" -- when it comes to effecting change, actions speak and words sometimes come along for the ride

If you believe in payment according to means and in effecting change to support what you believe, then why not take action rather than talking about it?  The most effective way for you to so effect this change is to join us:  arrange (legally) to exploit every loophole you can find in the IRC.  I'm neither a lawyer nor a financial professional of any sort, and I am able to easily zero out my federal income taxes at very little time cost to myself.  I know of no better way to get something done than to lead by example and see who follows.  How many people have to exploit the IRC before lawmakers get the picture and unscrew the code?  I'd prefer them to scrap the whole gig and start over, but we'll see what they come up with in the way of incremental changes.  So, how do you wield your liberty?  What actions do you take to effect change such that everyone pays according to their means?  (I politely and in good faith suggest that your lecturing on morality has very little effect at all.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adfecto, I won&#8217;t bother to engage you politically on this matter.  You believe what you believe (for now), as do I.  But let&#8217;s at least sort out a few things:<br />
* most schools, most police, most roads, and most libraries get funding mostly not from Federal income tax<br />
* in your list of 3- or 4-letter guvmint agencies, you seem to have omitted one:  IRS<br />
* you say that &#8220;liberty is about having the power to affect [sic] change&#8221; &#8212; when it comes to effecting change, actions speak and words sometimes come along for the ride</p>
<p>If you believe in payment according to means and in effecting change to support what you believe, then why not take action rather than talking about it?  The most effective way for you to so effect this change is to join us:  arrange (legally) to exploit every loophole you can find in the IRC.  I&#8217;m neither a lawyer nor a financial professional of any sort, and I am able to easily zero out my federal income taxes at very little time cost to myself.  I know of no better way to get something done than to lead by example and see who follows.  How many people have to exploit the IRC before lawmakers get the picture and unscrew the code?  I&#8217;d prefer them to scrap the whole gig and start over, but we&#8217;ll see what they come up with in the way of incremental changes.  So, how do you wield your liberty?  What actions do you take to effect change such that everyone pays according to their means?  (I politely and in good faith suggest that your lecturing on morality has very little effect at all.)</p>
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		<title>By: Adfecto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adfecto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand the point that Jacob is adhering to the letter of the law.  I am not a socialist, but I do adhere to a philosophy that we have a responsibility to our friends, neighbors, and countrymen, and paying taxes is a part of that.  

I see nothing wrong with a person paying only their "fair share" of taxes.  I just think we may define what is fair differently.    

In a perfect utopia I'd support the Libertarian ideals to limit government and depend on individuals to always do the right thing.  The problem is that in reality individuals are happy to trounce on the rights of others and ignore the common good.  Schools, police, roads, libraries, etc are items that absolutely benefit the common good and it is your duty to pay for these services.  The environment and defense are areas that require federal oversight as well.  Even if you don't use these services directly they provide a broad lift to our entire populous, and you benefit from the indirect affects.  

There is also the issue of tyranny of the majority.  What that means is that rural areas would never get phone service and electricity.  Cyclists would never get bike lanes (since most people drive cars, right?).  Corporations would run unchecked to discriminate, commit accounting fraud, violently put down unions, and ignore the safety of workers.  OSHA, SEC, FDA, EPA, FAA, DoE, FEMA, NASA, HUD, FHA, FDIC, etc  all of these agencies and organizations do good things! These responsibilities are not easily replicated by the private sector.  Left unchecked the little guy would get squashed.  Bureaucracy is expensive but it is sometime still the best way to do important work. 

Moving to a pay for service model would certainly cause many people slip through the cracks, not to mention how it would hurt social mobility and the equality of our society.  Do you want to deal with a police officer that is paid by general tax revenue or a neighborhood vigilante group?  Do you want to haggle about prices before the firemen will douse the flames?  Liberty is about having the power to affect change and not about making sure you don't pay for a library you don't personally use.  

My mom taught me to share my birthday cake with all of the other kids even if they didn't bring a present to the party ;-)

It is difficult to quantify the right amount of taxes but I have my ideas.  To make it short and sweet, everyone pays according to their means (wealth AND income) but not according to the skill of their CPA or CFP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the point that Jacob is adhering to the letter of the law.  I am not a socialist, but I do adhere to a philosophy that we have a responsibility to our friends, neighbors, and countrymen, and paying taxes is a part of that.  </p>
<p>I see nothing wrong with a person paying only their &#8220;fair share&#8221; of taxes.  I just think we may define what is fair differently.    </p>
<p>In a perfect utopia I&#8217;d support the Libertarian ideals to limit government and depend on individuals to always do the right thing.  The problem is that in reality individuals are happy to trounce on the rights of others and ignore the common good.  Schools, police, roads, libraries, etc are items that absolutely benefit the common good and it is your duty to pay for these services.  The environment and defense are areas that require federal oversight as well.  Even if you don&#8217;t use these services directly they provide a broad lift to our entire populous, and you benefit from the indirect affects.  </p>
<p>There is also the issue of tyranny of the majority.  What that means is that rural areas would never get phone service and electricity.  Cyclists would never get bike lanes (since most people drive cars, right?).  Corporations would run unchecked to discriminate, commit accounting fraud, violently put down unions, and ignore the safety of workers.  OSHA, SEC, FDA, EPA, FAA, DoE, FEMA, NASA, HUD, FHA, FDIC, etc  all of these agencies and organizations do good things! These responsibilities are not easily replicated by the private sector.  Left unchecked the little guy would get squashed.  Bureaucracy is expensive but it is sometime still the best way to do important work. </p>
<p>Moving to a pay for service model would certainly cause many people slip through the cracks, not to mention how it would hurt social mobility and the equality of our society.  Do you want to deal with a police officer that is paid by general tax revenue or a neighborhood vigilante group?  Do you want to haggle about prices before the firemen will douse the flames?  Liberty is about having the power to affect change and not about making sure you don&#8217;t pay for a library you don&#8217;t personally use.  </p>
<p>My mom taught me to share my birthday cake with all of the other kids even if they didn&#8217;t bring a present to the party <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It is difficult to quantify the right amount of taxes but I have my ideas.  To make it short and sweet, everyone pays according to their means (wealth AND income) but not according to the skill of their CPA or CFP.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 04:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adfecto, are you or are you not a True Born Son of Liberty?  There is nothing more American than resisting, opposing, avoiding, and minimizing taxes -- that's how it all started.  (And notice "evading" is not on the list -- no lawbreaking required.) Taxes, either when assessed or paid, are neither moral nor immoral.  Have you looked at USC Title 26?  If so, have you ever seen anything more convoluted?  Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to pay as little tax as possible, and strain the "system" you apparently love until it breaks.  Maybe then you'll vote legislators into office who will unscrew the tax code.  Until then, I intend to exploit the bejesus out of USC Title 26.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adfecto, are you or are you not a True Born Son of Liberty?  There is nothing more American than resisting, opposing, avoiding, and minimizing taxes &#8212; that&#8217;s how it all started.  (And notice &#8220;evading&#8221; is not on the list &#8212; no lawbreaking required.) Taxes, either when assessed or paid, are neither moral nor immoral.  Have you looked at USC Title 26?  If so, have you ever seen anything more convoluted?  Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to pay as little tax as possible, and strain the &#8220;system&#8221; you apparently love until it breaks.  Maybe then you&#8217;ll vote legislators into office who will unscrew the tax code.  Until then, I intend to exploit the bejesus out of USC Title 26.</p>
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		<title>By: BigBroodGander</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBroodGander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't worry Adfecto, I'll be paying taxes for Jacob ;-)

Seriously, I don't see the problem for those that can achieve it to take advantage of what options we give them in the US.  He's not doing anything illegal or immoral.

It does seem best that Early Retirees would use their time to do things beside serving themselves and I suspect Jacob will and is already.  Someone who has the discipline &#38; knowledge to become retired at a very early age, will go quite crazy doing nothing.

Also, I don't remember reading anywhere that anyone is required to pay taxes when their income is low, no matter how they earn that income.

Btw...Jacob, thanks for the blog.  I find it interesting and thought provoking many times.  I will NOT be retiring early, since I've chosen to have a big brood instead.  But I find inspiration to reach for my own early retirement (65?) just by reading.  I don't know yet when I'll retire as I'm working on stupid debt instead but thanks for giving me ideas anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry Adfecto, I&#8217;ll be paying taxes for Jacob <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously, I don&#8217;t see the problem for those that can achieve it to take advantage of what options we give them in the US.  He&#8217;s not doing anything illegal or immoral.</p>
<p>It does seem best that Early Retirees would use their time to do things beside serving themselves and I suspect Jacob will and is already.  Someone who has the discipline &amp; knowledge to become retired at a very early age, will go quite crazy doing nothing.</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t remember reading anywhere that anyone is required to pay taxes when their income is low, no matter how they earn that income.</p>
<p>Btw&#8230;Jacob, thanks for the blog.  I find it interesting and thought provoking many times.  I will NOT be retiring early, since I&#8217;ve chosen to have a big brood instead.  But I find inspiration to reach for my own early retirement (65?) just by reading.  I don&#8217;t know yet when I&#8217;ll retire as I&#8217;m working on stupid debt instead but thanks for giving me ideas anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jane - Making $1000 a month? I'd say about 25 hours or maybe 2-3 days of work. I have also thought about volunteering for room and board, for example joining the crew here http://www.seashepherd.org . Not sure how DW would appreciate that idea, but I find it rather exciting.

@steve - 1) as far as I understand I can put my $4000(2007) limit in either a ROTH or a Regular IRA. Contrary to popular opinion scientists don't make a lot of money. I make about as much as a long-haul trucker except that I also pay rent. Until recently DW worked as a grad student (they get paid even less). DW could take full deduction and I could deduct almost all of my IRA contribution. But of course, if our AGI was $103k I would go for the ROTH. 2) Yup, 1040, lines 25, 32 and 40 for an individual. 3) I think I need a W-2 income to contribute to the IRA. I'm not sure about the HSA though. The plan is to work enough to fully fund these and then live off of the investment income. 4) I saw an even better job on craigslist. Unfortunately it was in the wrong city, but the job involved leading a group of fitness (no hammering!) cyclists for a fitness ride every Saturday. 

@adfecto - I guess you're a socialist ;-) (I never would have suspected that!). What I see is how the government effectively steals my work and how it has been doing so for many years. Robbing is perhaps a better term since I would be going to jail at gun point if I refused to pay taxes. If there was an option to pay 0% taxes and then pay per use, I would take it (if I could please have the $50k+ I have paid in taxes so far back). It is not like these services would not exist (if there was a demand for them) if there were no government. The government just takes the money from productive people and gives it to less productive people. Insofar the market is efficient this is true by definition (I do support tax for externalities like pollution and defense). Well, this atlas shrugged. Actually one of the great benefits I get from being in the USA is in paying for less in tax than I would in Europe. People are economically freer in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jane - Making $1000 a month? I&#8217;d say about 25 hours or maybe 2-3 days of work. I have also thought about volunteering for room and board, for example joining the crew here <a href="http://www.seashepherd.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.seashepherd.org</a> . Not sure how DW would appreciate that idea, but I find it rather exciting.</p>
<p>@steve - 1) as far as I understand I can put my $4000(2007) limit in either a ROTH or a Regular IRA. Contrary to popular opinion scientists don&#8217;t make a lot of money. I make about as much as a long-haul trucker except that I also pay rent. Until recently DW worked as a grad student (they get paid even less). DW could take full deduction and I could deduct almost all of my IRA contribution. But of course, if our AGI was $103k I would go for the ROTH. 2) Yup, 1040, lines 25, 32 and 40 for an individual. 3) I think I need a W-2 income to contribute to the IRA. I&#8217;m not sure about the HSA though. The plan is to work enough to fully fund these and then live off of the investment income. 4) I saw an even better job on craigslist. Unfortunately it was in the wrong city, but the job involved leading a group of fitness (no hammering!) cyclists for a fitness ride every Saturday. </p>
<p>@adfecto - I guess you&#8217;re a socialist <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> (I never would have suspected that!). What I see is how the government effectively steals my work and how it has been doing so for many years. Robbing is perhaps a better term since I would be going to jail at gun point if I refused to pay taxes. If there was an option to pay 0% taxes and then pay per use, I would take it (if I could please have the $50k+ I have paid in taxes so far back). It is not like these services would not exist (if there was a demand for them) if there were no government. The government just takes the money from productive people and gives it to less productive people. Insofar the market is efficient this is true by definition (I do support tax for externalities like pollution and defense). Well, this atlas shrugged. Actually one of the great benefits I get from being in the USA is in paying for less in tax than I would in Europe. People are economically freer in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Adfecto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adfecto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is wrong to take advantage of public services to which you do not contribute.  If you are of able body and mind there is also something wrong with shirking productive work for the sake of selfish pursuits.  If you insist on not working for money, while also having significant wealth, you are CHEATING the system.  Your wealth should be taxed instead if you aren't going to work and you aren't going to spend your money either.  Do you see how you are effectively stealing the work of others? We work hard, pay our taxes, and then are forced to share the resources with you, who strives to do as little work as possible and pay virtually no taxes.  Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.  Take a job with some hippie non-profit and pay your share of income taxes at least!  Then you talk about minimizing estate taxes?  Why?  You'll be dead.  Recognize all of the great benefits you got from being the USA and how the lifestyle you strive for was facilitated by the safety, security, capitalism, and freedom provided by the tax dollars that you never contributed!  I'm curious to see what logic you use to justify your position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is wrong to take advantage of public services to which you do not contribute.  If you are of able body and mind there is also something wrong with shirking productive work for the sake of selfish pursuits.  If you insist on not working for money, while also having significant wealth, you are CHEATING the system.  Your wealth should be taxed instead if you aren&#8217;t going to work and you aren&#8217;t going to spend your money either.  Do you see how you are effectively stealing the work of others? We work hard, pay our taxes, and then are forced to share the resources with you, who strives to do as little work as possible and pay virtually no taxes.  Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.  Take a job with some hippie non-profit and pay your share of income taxes at least!  Then you talk about minimizing estate taxes?  Why?  You&#8217;ll be dead.  Recognize all of the great benefits you got from being the USA and how the lifestyle you strive for was facilitated by the safety, security, capitalism, and freedom provided by the tax dollars that you never contributed!  I&#8217;m curious to see what logic you use to justify your position.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 03:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several nits to your three stages:
1. I can't think of a reason why you wouldn't want to get yoself into a Roth IRA early and often.  Since you can always withdraw your *contributions* to a Roth IRA (early and w/o penalty), there really isn't any reason why you'd want to keep what you could contribute in a taxable account instead.  Contribute now, enjoy tax-free income inside the Roth IRA, and if you need the money pre-59.5, you can get at it w/o penalty.  Now, if you're looking to use your IRA contrib for a deductible account, that's a different equation, but I didn't get the impression that your earned income was low enough to make deductible IRA contribs.
2. Couldn't tell here whether you intend to be earning W-2 income in this stage.  If not, you won't have the option of making a deductible IRA contrib (or any IRA contrib other than rollover conversion "contributions")  The figure I'm working with is $8950, standard deduction plus personal exemption.  Could you line item your $12,250 for us?
3. You really don't have to worry about W-2'ing to fully offset your deduction &#38; exemption(s).  Taxable investment income can soak it up just fine, and if not your IRA to Roth IRA rollover conversion will take care of the rest!

Thanks for the link to retiresyd, I'll be grilling her with some Q's soon.  ;-\

Your paper delivery suggestion is genius!  You get to bike *for* work!

You're only going to live to your 90s?  I'm gunning for triple figures!  Just had my last grandparent pass away at age 99, so the trend is good.  We'll see how the parentals do en route the century mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several nits to your three stages:<br />
1. I can&#8217;t think of a reason why you wouldn&#8217;t want to get yoself into a Roth IRA early and often.  Since you can always withdraw your *contributions* to a Roth IRA (early and w/o penalty), there really isn&#8217;t any reason why you&#8217;d want to keep what you could contribute in a taxable account instead.  Contribute now, enjoy tax-free income inside the Roth IRA, and if you need the money pre-59.5, you can get at it w/o penalty.  Now, if you&#8217;re looking to use your IRA contrib for a deductible account, that&#8217;s a different equation, but I didn&#8217;t get the impression that your earned income was low enough to make deductible IRA contribs.<br />
2. Couldn&#8217;t tell here whether you intend to be earning W-2 income in this stage.  If not, you won&#8217;t have the option of making a deductible IRA contrib (or any IRA contrib other than rollover conversion &#8220;contributions&#8221;)  The figure I&#8217;m working with is $8950, standard deduction plus personal exemption.  Could you line item your $12,250 for us?<br />
3. You really don&#8217;t have to worry about W-2&#8242;ing to fully offset your deduction &amp; exemption(s).  Taxable investment income can soak it up just fine, and if not your IRA to Roth IRA rollover conversion will take care of the rest!</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to retiresyd, I&#8217;ll be grilling her with some Q&#8217;s soon.  ;-\</p>
<p>Your paper delivery suggestion is genius!  You get to bike *for* work!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re only going to live to your 90s?  I&#8217;m gunning for triple figures!  Just had my last grandparent pass away at age 99, so the trend is good.  We&#8217;ll see how the parentals do en route the century mark.</p>
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		<title>By: Shanti @ Antishay Ventenne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shanti @ Antishay Ventenne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for writing this! :D</description>
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		<title>By: jane in sf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jane in sf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for being a continued source of inspiration - and lowering the bar:)  My goal is to be out of the 8-5 by this summer.  My No. One retirement plan is to not require much cash - I was down to $1,300/month &#38; now have a new challenge of $1,000 (I love the challenge).  Honestly, how hard could it be to make that amount of money and not touch capital?  I can taste the freedom of Time to pursue hobbies with a personal value (carpentry, gardening, cooking, the list goes on &#38; on) = RICH life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for being a continued source of inspiration - and lowering the bar:)  My goal is to be out of the 8-5 by this summer.  My No. One retirement plan is to not require much cash - I was down to $1,300/month &amp; now have a new challenge of $1,000 (I love the challenge).  Honestly, how hard could it be to make that amount of money and not touch capital?  I can taste the freedom of Time to pursue hobbies with a personal value (carpentry, gardening, cooking, the list goes on &amp; on) = RICH life.</p>
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