Comments on: Better goal setting with S-curves http://earlyretirementextreme.com/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html Becoming debt-free is the first step to building a better world. Financial independence is the second. Doing what YOU want is the third. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:07:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: FreeUrChains http://earlyretirementextreme.com/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html/comment-page-1#comment-24926 FreeUrChains Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:40:42 +0000 http://earlyretirementextreme.com/2008/01/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html#comment-24926 I very much agree with Steve, at my present, i have found the top percentile for reducing expenses of wants and minimizing expenses on needs to still be happy and comfortable. Now I am taking up responsibilities and challenges on finding passive streaming revenue incomes with a lot of work at first, and then minimal upkeep. (Definition of Investment). This is an interesting concept because once you have the free time, the ideas/material things you enjoy the most and which take priority in your mind and thoughts must become more productive, efficient, and organized to keep producing you a return of profit, happiness, and save more time. Creativity is key here, followed by persistence and perspiration, and then use, delegation, and sharing/selling. Growth of yoru investments/ideas will generate growing returns. Oh and as you can recall in Physis 101, No two objects can occupy the same space unless time itself is reversed. Since you can't go back in time, you can't double your past happiness, but you can exponentially increase it by investing in time's future. Use your time wisely! I very much agree with Steve,

at my present, i have found the top percentile for reducing expenses of wants and minimizing expenses on needs to still be happy and comfortable. Now I am taking up responsibilities and challenges on finding passive streaming revenue incomes with a lot of work at first, and then minimal upkeep. (Definition of Investment). This is an interesting concept because once you have the free time, the ideas/material things you enjoy the most and which take priority in your mind and thoughts must become more productive, efficient, and organized to keep producing you a return of profit, happiness, and save more time. Creativity is key here, followed by persistence and perspiration, and then use, delegation, and sharing/selling. Growth of yoru investments/ideas will generate growing returns. Oh and as you can recall in Physis 101, No two objects can occupy the same space unless time itself is reversed. Since you can’t go back in time, you can’t double your past happiness, but you can exponentially increase it by investing in time’s future. Use your time wisely!

]]> By: rePete http://earlyretirementextreme.com/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html/comment-page-1#comment-21566 rePete Tue, 22 Mar 2011 23:08:38 +0000 http://earlyretirementextreme.com/2008/01/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html#comment-21566 I've recently been thinking about this post a lot this past winter season. Thanks for posting the comment, Jon! I think what Jacob is saying is that if you want to get past the lower left it is more probable to do so by trying to get there as fast as possible. I think he's trying to say that "slowly but surely" isn't as surely, due to attention spans or relative lack of accomplishment. Once you realize you can do something, you'll get to see the results. And this cycle will build a positive feedback system as more input effort leads to more output, up to a certain point. Think about cleaning up a frat party: One beer cup a day isn't going to get you far. . . . that's how I perceive this post, at least. I’ve recently been thinking about this post a lot this past winter season. Thanks for posting the comment, Jon!

I think what Jacob is saying is that if you want to get past the lower left it is more probable to do so by trying to get there as fast as possible. I think he’s trying to say that “slowly but surely” isn’t as surely, due to attention spans or relative lack of accomplishment.

Once you realize you can do something, you’ll get to see the results. And this cycle will build a positive feedback system as more input effort leads to more output, up to a certain point.

Think about cleaning up a frat party: One beer cup a day isn’t going to get you far.

. . . that’s how I perceive this post, at least.

]]> By: Jon http://earlyretirementextreme.com/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html/comment-page-1#comment-21559 Jon Tue, 22 Mar 2011 14:25:32 +0000 http://earlyretirementextreme.com/2008/01/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html#comment-21559 @jacob - I think I get your main point, but am trying to grasp how a person could work up the energy to put in enough effort to get meaningful results. Lack of results to me means that it could potentially have several causes - not doing the right actions, frequency, intensity, lack of focus, lack of consistency, etc... Perhaps you could share a few more examples? @jacob – I think I get your main point, but am trying to grasp how a person could work up the energy to put in enough effort to get meaningful results. Lack of results to me means that it could potentially have several causes – not doing the right actions, frequency, intensity, lack of focus, lack of consistency, etc… Perhaps you could share a few more examples?

]]> By: bigato http://earlyretirementextreme.com/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html/comment-page-1#comment-21214 bigato Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:38:23 +0000 http://earlyretirementextreme.com/2008/01/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html#comment-21214 Thanks for this. It helped me think about how to face my martial arts from now on. Thanks for this. It helped me think about how to face my martial arts from now on.

]]> By: Jacob http://earlyretirementextreme.com/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html/comment-page-1#comment-21187 Jacob Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:22:17 +0000 http://earlyretirementextreme.com/2008/01/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html#comment-21187 @Jon - I was trying to make the opposite point. Small efforts are likely to lead nowhere because the return on investment is small on the far left side of the S-curve. @Jon – I was trying to make the opposite point. Small efforts are likely to lead nowhere because the return on investment is small on the far left side of the S-curve.

]]> By: Jon http://earlyretirementextreme.com/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html/comment-page-1#comment-21185 Jon Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:01:13 +0000 http://earlyretirementextreme.com/2008/01/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html#comment-21185 This is definitely an interesting idea, and I have read about Pareto's law in Tim's book, The Four Hour Work Week (great book!). Even if efforts may be small when beginning something, it should not be seen as having no value. Indeed, perhaps most important is to begin a new habit, even if it something small. For example, how would a new habit of taking a few minutes to calculate monthly income vs. expenses start to change behavior? Or what about starting to exercise 10 minutes each day? How could you have an excuse that you don't have 10 minutes to exercise? The idea is that with small stepping stones, the mind is less likely to have resistance and create excuses. The habit creates the potential for great change. This is definitely an interesting idea, and I have read about Pareto’s law in Tim’s book, The Four Hour Work Week (great book!).
Even if efforts may be small when beginning something, it should not be seen as having no value. Indeed, perhaps most important is to begin a new habit, even if it something small.
For example, how would a new habit of taking a few minutes to calculate monthly income vs. expenses start to change behavior? Or what about starting to exercise 10 minutes each day? How could you have an excuse that you don’t have 10 minutes to exercise? The idea is that with small stepping stones, the mind is less likely to have resistance and create excuses. The habit creates the potential for great change.

]]> By: steve http://earlyretirementextreme.com/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html/comment-page-1#comment-3293 steve Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:57:06 +0000 http://earlyretirementextreme.com/2008/01/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html#comment-3293 Yes that is a lovely sigmoid I will agree. In my own life I have definitely gone beyond the linear curve on frugality and minimizing my expenses, it is time to focus on increasing my income. Further increases in frugality/efficiency are primarily at this point motivated by it just seeming like good form to do so, not so much by the net tangible results, which will be much greater if I focused at least 20% of my energy on increasing my top line. Yes that is a lovely sigmoid I will agree.

In my own life I have definitely gone beyond the linear curve on frugality and minimizing my expenses, it is time to focus on increasing my income. Further increases in frugality/efficiency are primarily at this point motivated by it just seeming like good form to do so, not so much by the net tangible results, which will be much greater if I focused at least 20% of my energy on increasing my top line.

]]> By: HIB http://earlyretirementextreme.com/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html/comment-page-1#comment-2285 HIB Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:11:13 +0000 http://earlyretirementextreme.com/2008/01/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html#comment-2285 Interesting post. The 4 Hour Work Week has been in my list of books to read. I guess I need to move it up the list. Great post! Thanks! -HIB Interesting post. The 4 Hour Work Week has been in my list of books to read. I guess I need to move it up the list. Great post!
Thanks!
-HIB

]]> By: Jacob http://earlyretirementextreme.com/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html/comment-page-1#comment-235 Jacob Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:39:05 +0000 http://earlyretirementextreme.com/2008/01/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html#comment-235 I started writing a reply, but it got so long that I figured that I might as well turn it into post. It will appear on Tuesday. I started writing a reply, but it got so long that I figured that I might as well turn it into post. It will appear on Tuesday.

]]> By: Thomas http://earlyretirementextreme.com/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html/comment-page-1#comment-234 Thomas Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:55:01 +0000 http://earlyretirementextreme.com/2008/01/better-goal-setting-with-s-curves.html#comment-234 Could you give an example how this applies to the problogging business? Thanks! Could you give an example how this applies to the problogging business? Thanks!

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