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		<title>By: 20% Time: Week 2 Results</title>
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		<dc:creator>20% Time: Week 2 Results</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 21:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Clothing, especially, tends to show wear rather quickly, and besides inventorying my wardrobe, I fleshed out actual outfits (which get put together right on the hanger, since my wardrobe is not so well designed yet that everything goes with everything). In addition,  I spent some time researching where to purchase high-quality replacements as they wear out, and collected them in an Amazon wish list. (By the way, if anyone knows where to find good yoga wear that is NOT lululemon, I&#8217;m still looking for that. I like alternative fabrics like hemp and bamboo, but the main requirement is that it wears like iron.) This is a form of minimalism, not materialism, and if it sounds an interesting project, check out these sites. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Clothing, especially, tends to show wear rather quickly, and besides inventorying my wardrobe, I fleshed out actual outfits (which get put together right on the hanger, since my wardrobe is not so well designed yet that everything goes with everything). In addition,  I spent some time researching where to purchase high-quality replacements as they wear out, and collected them in an Amazon wish list. (By the way, if anyone knows where to find good yoga wear that is NOT lululemon, I&#8217;m still looking for that. I like alternative fabrics like hemp and bamboo, but the main requirement is that it wears like iron.) This is a form of minimalism, not materialism, and if it sounds an interesting project, check out these sites. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 20:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Chicago the best way to get furniture (top of the line classics) is to go dumpster diving in rich neighborhoods. I remember having a wonderful sofa a couple years ago at the cost of sore muscles and a couple miles on the odometer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Chicago the best way to get furniture (top of the line classics) is to go dumpster diving in rich neighborhoods. I remember having a wonderful sofa a couple years ago at the cost of sore muscles and a couple miles on the odometer.</p>
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		<title>By: FreeUrChains</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;then spend your “working-money” on really good things that last a lifetime.&quot;

Did you hint at finding a wife here? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;then spend your “working-money” on really good things that last a lifetime.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did you hint at finding a wife here? <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Julien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 20:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sold The North Face and similar products earlier in life, and we got a lot of defectives returned.  To be fair, though,their customer service is incredible : Fast, thorough and helpful.  I think that is part of the quality of the product.

As for fishing reels, I have seen that the point of diminishing returns appears to be around 250$ for a spinning reel. Baitcasting reels seem to start being good at around the same price, but remember to always loosen the drag between outings, or it will not last 5 years.  Fly fishing reels for trout made out of metal should last a lifetime, no real stress on them Expect to pay around 100$ for a REAL NICE one.  For bass and Salmon or similar, I&#039;d expect to pay a lot more, 300-500$, to get true high end.

There is no reason not to buy an older firearm.  The stuff made from around 1930 to 1965, when in good condition (ALWAYS HAVE A GUNSMITH INSPECT) should last for another century or so without much trouble, and the stock is always replaceable.  Modern lesser actions are flimsier and contain lesser parts, along with easily lost spare magazines.  Notable exception : Stevens 200. When buying new, be sure to get a classic, easliy obtainable caliber and not a new and hard to find one.  30-06 should do the trick for everything in North America bigger than a coyote and smaller than a Buffalo.  12 ga for birds (of course, caliber questions are worse than Canadiens - Bruins, or mutual fund - stock picking debates)

For the rest of the camping and outdoors stuff, expect breakage and loss to claim a lot of things and budget accordingly.  Tents, even the best, have a lifetime of 300 days of use, more or less depending on sun exposure. I would not pay more than about 200-300 for one of those, aluminum poles are a must.  Down sleeping bags are nice and durable, except when you might expect humidity (as in everywhere except the desert / plains).  Synthetics will last you around 15 years of regular use in most any weather.  Wash by hand and tumble dry on low temp with an old pair of sneakers to fluff it up

Hiking bags can last long, but buckles will break on even the best. Get friendly with your local cobbler, he might have spares. Try to get plain stainless cooking pots, good for very long. Quality cooking stove made by MSR and Primus can last very long indeed, with regular maintenance and a spare part kit to replace O-rings, plastic tubes and leather pump valves.
Those were canadian prices a 3 years ago.

Asolo makes great boots, which I regrettably tend to destroy by using on asphalt.  Good point that : Outdoorsy soles last a very short time on pavement and concrete. 

That&#039;s off the top of my head.  Hope it helps someone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sold The North Face and similar products earlier in life, and we got a lot of defectives returned.  To be fair, though,their customer service is incredible : Fast, thorough and helpful.  I think that is part of the quality of the product.</p>
<p>As for fishing reels, I have seen that the point of diminishing returns appears to be around 250$ for a spinning reel. Baitcasting reels seem to start being good at around the same price, but remember to always loosen the drag between outings, or it will not last 5 years.  Fly fishing reels for trout made out of metal should last a lifetime, no real stress on them Expect to pay around 100$ for a REAL NICE one.  For bass and Salmon or similar, I&#8217;d expect to pay a lot more, 300-500$, to get true high end.</p>
<p>There is no reason not to buy an older firearm.  The stuff made from around 1930 to 1965, when in good condition (ALWAYS HAVE A GUNSMITH INSPECT) should last for another century or so without much trouble, and the stock is always replaceable.  Modern lesser actions are flimsier and contain lesser parts, along with easily lost spare magazines.  Notable exception : Stevens 200. When buying new, be sure to get a classic, easliy obtainable caliber and not a new and hard to find one.  30-06 should do the trick for everything in North America bigger than a coyote and smaller than a Buffalo.  12 ga for birds (of course, caliber questions are worse than Canadiens &#8211; Bruins, or mutual fund &#8211; stock picking debates)</p>
<p>For the rest of the camping and outdoors stuff, expect breakage and loss to claim a lot of things and budget accordingly.  Tents, even the best, have a lifetime of 300 days of use, more or less depending on sun exposure. I would not pay more than about 200-300 for one of those, aluminum poles are a must.  Down sleeping bags are nice and durable, except when you might expect humidity (as in everywhere except the desert / plains).  Synthetics will last you around 15 years of regular use in most any weather.  Wash by hand and tumble dry on low temp with an old pair of sneakers to fluff it up</p>
<p>Hiking bags can last long, but buckles will break on even the best. Get friendly with your local cobbler, he might have spares. Try to get plain stainless cooking pots, good for very long. Quality cooking stove made by MSR and Primus can last very long indeed, with regular maintenance and a spare part kit to replace O-rings, plastic tubes and leather pump valves.<br />
Those were canadian prices a 3 years ago.</p>
<p>Asolo makes great boots, which I regrettably tend to destroy by using on asphalt.  Good point that : Outdoorsy soles last a very short time on pavement and concrete. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s off the top of my head.  Hope it helps someone</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 09:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with some suggestions on here (one or two top quality knives will last decades and stay sharp), others don&#039;t strike me as such great ideas. 

For example, someone suggested a Sigg water bottle. They&#039;re decent enough aluminium water bottles, but having owned one that was eventually replaced with a slightly smaller pressed aluminium water bottle from a £1 store ($1.50), it&#039;s standing up just as well.

People often cite £200 weather proof jackets as an example of quality purchases (Berghaus, North Face etc.), but I don&#039;t see why they&#039;re any better than their £30 no-brand equivalent picked up in the sale. They&#039;re all made from the same man made fibres, they&#039;re all made in the same Chinese workshops... I think there&#039;s a lot of snob value attached to some of our purchases.

Of course, it&#039;s different with anything mechanical or built (like good furniture), as there&#039;s a lot more that can go wrong with moving parts etc. and it&#039;s important to buy quality.

My father in law is currently getting into furniture restoration and we&#039;ve got some lovely pieces - a restored hardwood bureau for about £50, a beautiful brass inlaid table for £10. Luckily for us he&#039;s a generous craftsman :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with some suggestions on here (one or two top quality knives will last decades and stay sharp), others don&#8217;t strike me as such great ideas. </p>
<p>For example, someone suggested a Sigg water bottle. They&#8217;re decent enough aluminium water bottles, but having owned one that was eventually replaced with a slightly smaller pressed aluminium water bottle from a £1 store ($1.50), it&#8217;s standing up just as well.</p>
<p>People often cite £200 weather proof jackets as an example of quality purchases (Berghaus, North Face etc.), but I don&#8217;t see why they&#8217;re any better than their £30 no-brand equivalent picked up in the sale. They&#8217;re all made from the same man made fibres, they&#8217;re all made in the same Chinese workshops&#8230; I think there&#8217;s a lot of snob value attached to some of our purchases.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s different with anything mechanical or built (like good furniture), as there&#8217;s a lot more that can go wrong with moving parts etc. and it&#8217;s important to buy quality.</p>
<p>My father in law is currently getting into furniture restoration and we&#8217;ve got some lovely pieces &#8211; a restored hardwood bureau for about £50, a beautiful brass inlaid table for £10. Luckily for us he&#8217;s a generous craftsman <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Misplaced Coupon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misplaced Coupon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 15:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My take on a few quality kitchen appliances:

http://misplacedcoupon.blogspot.com/2011/03/best-single-serving-drink-appliances.html

I do make a stand against the Vitamix.  I really like my single-serving Cusinart blender.  It also fits the bill in terms of being smaller and less bulky that other blenders.  Another alternative is the hand-crank blender. I have known people who live off the grid and like these things very much--may be more in line with ERE and using as little electricity as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take on a few quality kitchen appliances:</p>
<p><a href="http://misplacedcoupon.blogspot.com/2011/03/best-single-serving-drink-appliances.html" rel="nofollow">http://misplacedcoupon.blogspot.com/2011/03/best-single-serving-drink-appliances.html</a></p>
<p>I do make a stand against the Vitamix.  I really like my single-serving Cusinart blender.  It also fits the bill in terms of being smaller and less bulky that other blenders.  Another alternative is the hand-crank blender. I have known people who live off the grid and like these things very much&#8211;may be more in line with ERE and using as little electricity as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: turboseize</title>
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		<dc:creator>turboseize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 20:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Darren: I try to do that, but neverthless I spend way to much on cars... that is, not on the car, but on driving. But then, with a mordern car driving that much would simply become unaffordable.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  

My grandmother always used to say &quot;we can&#039;t afford to buy cheap, we&#039;re not rich enough to waste...&quot;. Guess what? She was (and is) right.
As I mentioned earlier in some comment, I find it increasingly difficult to find &quot;quality&quot;, especially when it comes to clothes and shoes.
I tend to fall for the Kevin-M-syndrome: if everything is junk anyway, why pay more than necessary... 
Now where (and how) do you find quality nowadays? Advice on where to buy affordable, durable shoes at a resonable price (three digit euro is ok, as long as the first digit is kept low...) is greatly appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Darren: I try to do that, but neverthless I spend way to much on cars&#8230; that is, not on the car, but on driving. But then, with a mordern car driving that much would simply become unaffordable.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; -  </p>
<p>My grandmother always used to say &#8220;we can&#8217;t afford to buy cheap, we&#8217;re not rich enough to waste&#8230;&#8221;. Guess what? She was (and is) right.<br />
As I mentioned earlier in some comment, I find it increasingly difficult to find &#8220;quality&#8221;, especially when it comes to clothes and shoes.<br />
I tend to fall for the Kevin-M-syndrome: if everything is junk anyway, why pay more than necessary&#8230;<br />
Now where (and how) do you find quality nowadays? Advice on where to buy affordable, durable shoes at a resonable price (three digit euro is ok, as long as the first digit is kept low&#8230;) is greatly appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren (Green Change)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren (Green Change)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 13:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you advocate not owning a car, but I used to work with a guy who only ever bought &quot;classic&quot; cars. These were usually 30+ years old, restored to very good condition, and he maintained them well.

Almost everyone else I knew at the time was effectively losing $5-10K/year off their car&#039;s value in depreciation, and replacing them with new ones every 2-3 years.

This guy was having a ball, selling his old cars for at least what he paid for them (often much more!), and getting to drive a different classic every few years. He got way more pleasure out of his cars than anyone else I knew, and paid a lot less for the privilege!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you advocate not owning a car, but I used to work with a guy who only ever bought &#8220;classic&#8221; cars. These were usually 30+ years old, restored to very good condition, and he maintained them well.</p>
<p>Almost everyone else I knew at the time was effectively losing $5-10K/year off their car&#8217;s value in depreciation, and replacing them with new ones every 2-3 years.</p>
<p>This guy was having a ball, selling his old cars for at least what he paid for them (often much more!), and getting to drive a different classic every few years. He got way more pleasure out of his cars than anyone else I knew, and paid a lot less for the privilege!</p>
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		<title>By: MichelM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichelM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am considering buying a Sigg Water Bottle.
They are expensive but durable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am considering buying a Sigg Water Bottle.<br />
They are expensive but durable.</p>
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		<title>By: JWalvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>JWalvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When are the next days coming out!?</description>
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		<title>By: Ultrarunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ultrarunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never lost money on a car...

I buy an older, well maintained car, drive it for a couple of years and sell it for more than I have in it... not necessarily counting operational costs of license, insurance and fuel... just the cost of the cars and repairs...

I&#039;ve been doing it since High School and it&#039;s always worked...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never lost money on a car&#8230;</p>
<p>I buy an older, well maintained car, drive it for a couple of years and sell it for more than I have in it&#8230; not necessarily counting operational costs of license, insurance and fuel&#8230; just the cost of the cars and repairs&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been doing it since High School and it&#8217;s always worked&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re knives - I&#039;m not a knife buff, but I get the impression that a non-hollow ground knife of reasonable quality should last a long time... If the knife is hollow ground, it will become &#039;unsharpenable&#039; after a while.

I&#039;m not familiar with the makes listed above, but I made a knife from an engineering hacksaw blade when I was 13, mostly with a hand-turned grinder! It&#039;s been used in the kitchen every day by my family for the last 20 years, including a year-long stint in a field when my father lost it temporarily. Doesn&#039;t look so pretty now, but hey :)

I think people (me included!) can get a bit carried away with the idea of quality. You can definitely get to a point of diminishing returns, once you stop buying junk. I&#039;m still breaking myself of the junk habit, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re knives &#8211; I&#8217;m not a knife buff, but I get the impression that a non-hollow ground knife of reasonable quality should last a long time&#8230; If the knife is hollow ground, it will become &#8216;unsharpenable&#8217; after a while.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not familiar with the makes listed above, but I made a knife from an engineering hacksaw blade when I was 13, mostly with a hand-turned grinder! It&#8217;s been used in the kitchen every day by my family for the last 20 years, including a year-long stint in a field when my father lost it temporarily. Doesn&#8217;t look so pretty now, but hey <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think people (me included!) can get a bit carried away with the idea of quality. You can definitely get to a point of diminishing returns, once you stop buying junk. I&#8217;m still breaking myself of the junk habit, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Corporate Barbarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corporate Barbarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve wanted to buy a Sebenza for a long time, but I can&#039;t seem to pull the trigger.  I&#039;ll have to make do with my Doug Ritter Griptilian.  I did spring for a custom fixed blade from Gene Ingram a few years back, which proved to be a great decision.  Owning a quality product is very fulfilling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve wanted to buy a Sebenza for a long time, but I can&#8217;t seem to pull the trigger.  I&#8217;ll have to make do with my Doug Ritter Griptilian.  I did spring for a custom fixed blade from Gene Ingram a few years back, which proved to be a great decision.  Owning a quality product is very fulfilling.</p>
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		<title>By: matt g</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Electronic&quot; musical instruments may not be a great investment, but some &quot;electric&quot; ones are.  There is a level of quality in a well taken care of vintage Gibson electric guitar that will not be made obsolete by electronic advances.  You might argue that really good tube guitar amplifiers are the same way, though it&#039;s easier to DIY one of these.  Either way, it&#039;s not cheap and should not lose significant value.

This discussion fits in with your definition of &quot;sacrifice&quot; the other day.  Buying something nice that will hold value is a sacrifice I can live with!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Electronic&#8221; musical instruments may not be a great investment, but some &#8220;electric&#8221; ones are.  There is a level of quality in a well taken care of vintage Gibson electric guitar that will not be made obsolete by electronic advances.  You might argue that really good tube guitar amplifiers are the same way, though it&#8217;s easier to DIY one of these.  Either way, it&#8217;s not cheap and should not lose significant value.</p>
<p>This discussion fits in with your definition of &#8220;sacrifice&#8221; the other day.  Buying something nice that will hold value is a sacrifice I can live with!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think buying cheap stuff is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy in the world we live in (the Made in China generation, so to speak).  So many people think everything out there is crap, they&#039;ll just buy the least expensive option under the assumption it will have to be replaced in &quot;x&quot; time period.  

That, and everyone is too busy to actually take care of the things they own, so routine maintenance is ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think buying cheap stuff is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy in the world we live in (the Made in China generation, so to speak).  So many people think everything out there is crap, they&#8217;ll just buy the least expensive option under the assumption it will have to be replaced in &#8220;x&#8221; time period.  </p>
<p>That, and everyone is too busy to actually take care of the things they own, so routine maintenance is ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had somewhat poor results with Wusthoff knives-- our set literally fell apart at 20-25 years: handles cracked and fell to pieces, and several of the tips broke off on the smaller knives. I&#039;m not overly disappointed-- 20 years is a pretty long time for a knife that gets regular use. When you buy them you are told that they will last generations, but I don&#039;t know anyone who actually has a daily use knife that is over 40 years old. When I think about it, it&#039;s probably asking too much from a knife to hold up like  people claim they will. I&#039;m open to the possibility that I didn&#039;t maintain the knives properly-- perhaps I got the handle wet too often, but we didn&#039;t put them in the machine. We&#039;ve switched to Hinckels professional line, good knives too, though I don&#039;t know if they&#039;re actually any better.

Fishing gear is very dependent on where you live and how you intend to fish. For those who aren&#039;t fly fishing, fish less than 4-6 days per year, and catch fish that are almost always under 10lbs, a zebco 33 set is a classic-- cost around $20-30, require virtually no maintenance, are very simple to use, and can easily last 20-30 years. It may not be an expensive bit of gear, but it&#039;s definitely a classic, particularly for the beginner or occasional angler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had somewhat poor results with Wusthoff knives&#8211; our set literally fell apart at 20-25 years: handles cracked and fell to pieces, and several of the tips broke off on the smaller knives. I&#8217;m not overly disappointed&#8211; 20 years is a pretty long time for a knife that gets regular use. When you buy them you are told that they will last generations, but I don&#8217;t know anyone who actually has a daily use knife that is over 40 years old. When I think about it, it&#8217;s probably asking too much from a knife to hold up like  people claim they will. I&#8217;m open to the possibility that I didn&#8217;t maintain the knives properly&#8211; perhaps I got the handle wet too often, but we didn&#8217;t put them in the machine. We&#8217;ve switched to Hinckels professional line, good knives too, though I don&#8217;t know if they&#8217;re actually any better.</p>
<p>Fishing gear is very dependent on where you live and how you intend to fish. For those who aren&#8217;t fly fishing, fish less than 4-6 days per year, and catch fish that are almost always under 10lbs, a zebco 33 set is a classic&#8211; cost around $20-30, require virtually no maintenance, are very simple to use, and can easily last 20-30 years. It may not be an expensive bit of gear, but it&#8217;s definitely a classic, particularly for the beginner or occasional angler.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@PC - I was thinking about making a sidebar entry but waiting until I reached the impossible goal of 30 days, but I might as well do it now. Actually day 15 does include a list of the first 15 days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@PC &#8211; I was thinking about making a sidebar entry but waiting until I reached the impossible goal of 30 days, but I might as well do it now. Actually day 15 does include a list of the first 15 days.</p>
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		<title>By: PC</title>
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		<dc:creator>PC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed this series very much. 

A suggestion: Why not make a page for this series or at least have the previous posts as links at the bottom of this page?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed this series very much. </p>
<p>A suggestion: Why not make a page for this series or at least have the previous posts as links at the bottom of this page?</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicolas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wüsthof knives! Should last a few generations if well taken maintained.</description>
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		<title>By: hickchick</title>
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		<dc:creator>hickchick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do realize that the short answer to classic things would be anything over $100 at your local pawn shop.  ($100 real dollars, not the price on the tag)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do realize that the short answer to classic things would be anything over $100 at your local pawn shop.  ($100 real dollars, not the price on the tag)</p>
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