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		<title>By: Mirwen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mirwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you the amount of gas you buy doesn&#039;t vary, I don&#039;t think dollar cost averaging will work.  However, when prices are rising, I fill up more frequently and when prices are falling I wait longer.  I doubt any of this makes much difference.

My scooter requires premium fuel, and I balked at buying this at first until I realized the &quot;premium&quot; was $2.30 per YEAR based on my use of 15 miles 4 days a week for half the year.

I expect saving a few cents at the pump by changing your timing to have a similar effect, unless you have a gas guzzler. But then you have a bigger problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you the amount of gas you buy doesn&#8217;t vary, I don&#8217;t think dollar cost averaging will work.  However, when prices are rising, I fill up more frequently and when prices are falling I wait longer.  I doubt any of this makes much difference.</p>
<p>My scooter requires premium fuel, and I balked at buying this at first until I realized the &#8220;premium&#8221; was $2.30 per YEAR based on my use of 15 miles 4 days a week for half the year.</p>
<p>I expect saving a few cents at the pump by changing your timing to have a similar effect, unless you have a gas guzzler. But then you have a bigger problem.</p>
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		<title>By: WAU: Financial Recovery &#171; The Wealth Artisan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WAU: Financial Recovery &#171; The Wealth Artisan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Caine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 01:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife shops at our local Vons and gets cash off an already low price...we then use our PenFed credit card that gives us 5% for using it on gas.  We usually save about 20 to 30 cents per gallon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife shops at our local Vons and gets cash off an already low price&#8230;we then use our PenFed credit card that gives us 5% for using it on gas.  We usually save about 20 to 30 cents per gallon.</p>
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		<title>By: Britz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 23:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife drives our car for short kid- and laptop-freighting trips, and I use it once every week or two for bulk shopping. With this low usage, it only makes sense to wait patiently until petrol prices drop to some by-me-fixed level, at which point, I fill up the tank completely. This probably only saves about 10-15% of the already-smallish petrol bill - but that is still about $75-100 each year. Not much, but all gain and no effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife drives our car for short kid- and laptop-freighting trips, and I use it once every week or two for bulk shopping. With this low usage, it only makes sense to wait patiently until petrol prices drop to some by-me-fixed level, at which point, I fill up the tank completely. This probably only saves about 10-15% of the already-smallish petrol bill &#8211; but that is still about $75-100 each year. Not much, but all gain and no effort.</p>
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		<title>By: frugalscholar</title>
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		<dc:creator>frugalscholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that if you do the math, the smallish differences in gas prices don&#039;t make that big a difference in the cost of running a car. If your car gets 30 miles to a gallon, a 10 cent difference in prices doesn&#039;t add (or subtract) that much. This is one area where my frugal spouse and I relax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that if you do the math, the smallish differences in gas prices don&#8217;t make that big a difference in the cost of running a car. If your car gets 30 miles to a gallon, a 10 cent difference in prices doesn&#8217;t add (or subtract) that much. This is one area where my frugal spouse and I relax.</p>
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		<title>By: Macs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Macs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... this one keeps coming back to haunt me.

Isn&#039;t part of dollar-cost averaging making REGULAR purchases, ie a certain dollar amount per month?

If this is applied to &#039;gas&#039; (sorry, I&#039;m struggling as a Brit, with &#039;dollars&#039; and &#039;gas&#039;... :) )* I feel the system breaks down.

Consider the extremes:

Extreme high price: a fixed number of dollars doesn&#039;t cover a month&#039;s needs (in which case you are NOT buying less of the expensive gas as you purchase more often). 

Extreme low price (ha ha :) ): a fixed number of dollars is more than a tankful, so you don&#039;t get the full advantage of the lower price.

So what&#039;s the practical solution? More storage other than your vehicle&#039;s tank? Or maybe working out an &#039;optimum fill&#039; level at &#039;normal&#039; prices to allow for best averaging given likely market conditions? 

Or just give up on the maths, ditch the car and stick to the bike...

* I like the phrase &#039;cash-cost averaging&#039; as a culturally-neutral option :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; this one keeps coming back to haunt me.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t part of dollar-cost averaging making REGULAR purchases, ie a certain dollar amount per month?</p>
<p>If this is applied to &#8216;gas&#8217; (sorry, I&#8217;m struggling as a Brit, with &#8216;dollars&#8217; and &#8216;gas&#8217;&#8230; <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )* I feel the system breaks down.</p>
<p>Consider the extremes:</p>
<p>Extreme high price: a fixed number of dollars doesn&#8217;t cover a month&#8217;s needs (in which case you are NOT buying less of the expensive gas as you purchase more often). </p>
<p>Extreme low price (ha ha <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ): a fixed number of dollars is more than a tankful, so you don&#8217;t get the full advantage of the lower price.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the practical solution? More storage other than your vehicle&#8217;s tank? Or maybe working out an &#8216;optimum fill&#8217; level at &#8216;normal&#8217; prices to allow for best averaging given likely market conditions? </p>
<p>Or just give up on the maths, ditch the car and stick to the bike&#8230;</p>
<p>* I like the phrase &#8216;cash-cost averaging&#8217; as a culturally-neutral option <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Xavier (physics prof at GMU...)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xavier (physics prof at GMU...)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad someone looked at my post and it&#039;s too bad I took it down! I did a quick search and can&#039;t seem find it again.

To sum up my methodology and findings, I downloaded many years worth of gas price data and wrote an algorithm that simulated dollar cost averaging over various intervals (like for 5 years, from 1999-2001, for a few months, while gas was expensive, cheap, etc.) and found that sometimes you saved money, sometime you lost money. The amounts were never significant considering the time periods (although &#039;significant&#039; is relative of course). 

One thing you always lose by dollar cost averaging is time, and that&#039;s the most precious resource of all.

Speaking of the gas/money/time conundrum, my wife, who is an OB-GYN resident, resets her trip odometer to zero when the &#039;empty&#039; lights up on the fuel gauge and then fills her tank after ~40 mi because she knows that she has 50 mi left after the &#039;empty&#039; light. She does this to minimize the number of times she has to fill up. Now that&#039;s extreme!!! It drives me nuts. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad someone looked at my post and it&#8217;s too bad I took it down! I did a quick search and can&#8217;t seem find it again.</p>
<p>To sum up my methodology and findings, I downloaded many years worth of gas price data and wrote an algorithm that simulated dollar cost averaging over various intervals (like for 5 years, from 1999-2001, for a few months, while gas was expensive, cheap, etc.) and found that sometimes you saved money, sometime you lost money. The amounts were never significant considering the time periods (although &#8216;significant&#8217; is relative of course). </p>
<p>One thing you always lose by dollar cost averaging is time, and that&#8217;s the most precious resource of all.</p>
<p>Speaking of the gas/money/time conundrum, my wife, who is an OB-GYN resident, resets her trip odometer to zero when the &#8216;empty&#8217; lights up on the fuel gauge and then fills her tank after ~40 mi because she knows that she has 50 mi left after the &#8216;empty&#8217; light. She does this to minimize the number of times she has to fill up. Now that&#8217;s extreme!!! It drives me nuts. <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 18:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;m bored at lunch.&quot;... thus randomly reading old posts.

Dang, the mason.gmu.edu link reports that the link is forbidden, so I can&#039;t see what the prof had to say.

As I recall, though, dollar cost averaging only brings a benefit if prices are falling.  If they&#039;re rising, then you want to make sure you have a stockpile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m bored at lunch.&#8221;&#8230; thus randomly reading old posts.</p>
<p>Dang, the mason.gmu.edu link reports that the link is forbidden, so I can&#8217;t see what the prof had to say.</p>
<p>As I recall, though, dollar cost averaging only brings a benefit if prices are falling.  If they&#8217;re rising, then you want to make sure you have a stockpile.</p>
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		<title>By: better off biking</title>
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		<dc:creator>better off biking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a physics prof at GMU did the math and he found that dollar cost averaging at the pump didn&#039;t make any sense:

http://mason.gmu.edu/~xambrogg/NumbersBlog/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a physics prof at GMU did the math and he found that dollar cost averaging at the pump didn&#8217;t make any sense:</p>
<p><a href="http://mason.gmu.edu/~xambrogg/NumbersBlog/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://mason.gmu.edu/~xambrogg/NumbersBlog/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: norcalbiker</title>
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		<dc:creator>norcalbiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Each fill up takes a certain amount of time e.g. 10 minutes. Saving this time I think is more important than the dollar cost averaging effect. Hence I prefer to just fill up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each fill up takes a certain amount of time e.g. 10 minutes. Saving this time I think is more important than the dollar cost averaging effect. Hence I prefer to just fill up</p>
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		<title>By: PT from Prime Time Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>PT from Prime Time Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife, the truly frugal one, makes me dollar cost avg at the pump (even though we don&#039;t call it that) b/c I&#039;m always filling up at the convenient location and she says only put in $5 now and I&#039;ll take it to Kroger (where we get .10 off sometimes) next week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife, the truly frugal one, makes me dollar cost avg at the pump (even though we don&#8217;t call it that) b/c I&#8217;m always filling up at the convenient location and she says only put in $5 now and I&#8217;ll take it to Kroger (where we get .10 off sometimes) next week.</p>
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