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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://earlyretirementextreme.com/escaping-9-to-5-before-25.html/comment-page-1#comment-10805</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully recognize that our situation isn’t easily replicable

Before 25? I think for most of us, it&#039;s possible to retire in 10 years, but 5 years is very short. And it depends on the education. The sooner you start working, the better. But let&#039;s assume 5 years (in the ERE spirit). If you have an higher education, it might last 4 to 5 years.
In my case, it was 5 years... I was already 23. Add 5 years to that and you are already at 28. That&#039;s still a good number, though.
I&#039;m not convinced about being able to do it in 5 years yet, I need more time on this blog and some more calculations for that. But before 25? How could you pull that off? I don&#039;t understand...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully recognize that our situation isn’t easily replicable</p>
<p>Before 25? I think for most of us, it&#8217;s possible to retire in 10 years, but 5 years is very short. And it depends on the education. The sooner you start working, the better. But let&#8217;s assume 5 years (in the ERE spirit). If you have an higher education, it might last 4 to 5 years.<br />
In my case, it was 5 years&#8230; I was already 23. Add 5 years to that and you are already at 28. That&#8217;s still a good number, though.<br />
I&#8217;m not convinced about being able to do it in 5 years yet, I need more time on this blog and some more calculations for that. But before 25? How could you pull that off? I don&#8217;t understand&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 07:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@FS: &quot;I guess I could live off 12K/yr in income if I had no living expenses, but why not just work until 30 or something, and triple your savings and then retire?&quot;

one might not want to do that because,
a) they don&#039;t want to work that long, and
b) they can live on less than 36k per year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@FS: &#8220;I guess I could live off 12K/yr in income if I had no living expenses, but why not just work until 30 or something, and triple your savings and then retire?&#8221;</p>
<p>one might not want to do that because,<br />
a) they don&#8217;t want to work that long, and<br />
b) they can live on less than 36k per year.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest Post Author</title>
		<link>http://earlyretirementextreme.com/escaping-9-to-5-before-25.html/comment-page-1#comment-8539</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest Post Author</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 05:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Financial Samurai - In short (a lot was answered above) I don&#039;t know. I may miss work, may not. I&#039;m not so much escaping work as I am escaping working for others. We want to take a couple of years to relax, but I also plan on spending part of our time off trying out some start-ups that I&#039;ve been looking forward to. 

PS - Before 25!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Financial Samurai &#8211; In short (a lot was answered above) I don&#8217;t know. I may miss work, may not. I&#8217;m not so much escaping work as I am escaping working for others. We want to take a couple of years to relax, but I also plan on spending part of our time off trying out some start-ups that I&#8217;ve been looking forward to. </p>
<p>PS &#8211; Before 25!</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy Author,

Do you think you&#039;ll miss work?  Finishing up at 25 with just 300K in the bank seems like a long road to hoe.  

I guess I could live off 12K/yr in income if I had no living expenses, but why not just work until 30 or something, and triple your savings and then retire?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy Author,</p>
<p>Do you think you&#8217;ll miss work?  Finishing up at 25 with just 300K in the bank seems like a long road to hoe.  </p>
<p>I guess I could live off 12K/yr in income if I had no living expenses, but why not just work until 30 or something, and triple your savings and then retire?</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://earlyretirementextreme.com/escaping-9-to-5-before-25.html/comment-page-1#comment-7732</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re doing something similar this year at age 31 (and with one child)... reading this I almost wish we hadn&#039;t frittered those 5-6 years in graduate school getting our PhDs on 18K salaries in an expensive city.  But I like my long-term job (and the PhD was required for it), and my husband&#039;s degree is helpful for his start-up, so I can&#039;t complain too much.  

Enjoy your time off!  We&#039;re definitely enjoying ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re doing something similar this year at age 31 (and with one child)&#8230; reading this I almost wish we hadn&#8217;t frittered those 5-6 years in graduate school getting our PhDs on 18K salaries in an expensive city.  But I like my long-term job (and the PhD was required for it), and my husband&#8217;s degree is helpful for his start-up, so I can&#8217;t complain too much.  </p>
<p>Enjoy your time off!  We&#8217;re definitely enjoying ours.</p>
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		<title>By: enid</title>
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		<dc:creator>enid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t help but agree with Alex here... just a few more years and you would be SET for LIFE. I don&#039;t understand the rush... unless one of you have a terminal illness and only a few years left to live (in which case your plan would be perfectly justified), why would you throw such great momentum away? 

I respect the reasons behind your confidence (great education, great compensation at your current job, plan on being self-employed, etc.) BUT I think it&#039;s better to be cautious than sorry. In ten years your financial knowledge/skills will be largely irrelevant. The world is already changing at an alarming rate and who knows what the employment future will look like or what the economic climate of this country will be? You&#039;ve mentioned all the upsides, but fail to consider the downsides. It&#039;s less that posters like Alex and I are envious of your situation but concerned. In a worst case scenario, you will have no means to support yourself by the time your mini-retirement is over and your 30s and 40s will be exposed to more hardship and risk than if you had simply waited out a few more years in your 20s.

I appreciate your confidence, but there is a reason why people are cautious. If the upside (hopefully everything works out for you two) is a possibility, so is the downside. I just think the risk outweighs the returns, when you could be in the same happy scenario in your thirties, but this time for good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but agree with Alex here&#8230; just a few more years and you would be SET for LIFE. I don&#8217;t understand the rush&#8230; unless one of you have a terminal illness and only a few years left to live (in which case your plan would be perfectly justified), why would you throw such great momentum away? </p>
<p>I respect the reasons behind your confidence (great education, great compensation at your current job, plan on being self-employed, etc.) BUT I think it&#8217;s better to be cautious than sorry. In ten years your financial knowledge/skills will be largely irrelevant. The world is already changing at an alarming rate and who knows what the employment future will look like or what the economic climate of this country will be? You&#8217;ve mentioned all the upsides, but fail to consider the downsides. It&#8217;s less that posters like Alex and I are envious of your situation but concerned. In a worst case scenario, you will have no means to support yourself by the time your mini-retirement is over and your 30s and 40s will be exposed to more hardship and risk than if you had simply waited out a few more years in your 20s.</p>
<p>I appreciate your confidence, but there is a reason why people are cautious. If the upside (hopefully everything works out for you two) is a possibility, so is the downside. I just think the risk outweighs the returns, when you could be in the same happy scenario in your thirties, but this time for good.</p>
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		<title>By: Concojones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concojones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would also appreciate any info you could give (without giving away anonymity) on your self-employment plans. What exactly in Finance have you been doing as an employee, and what would you do when self-employed? I have similar goals as yours (financial independence, self-employment) but I&#039;m a couple years older, 70k in the bank, worked in Finance too but now changing careers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also appreciate any info you could give (without giving away anonymity) on your self-employment plans. What exactly in Finance have you been doing as an employee, and what would you do when self-employed? I have similar goals as yours (financial independence, self-employment) but I&#8217;m a couple years older, 70k in the bank, worked in Finance too but now changing careers.</p>
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		<title>By: Concojones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concojones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Guest Post Author: I&#039;m in awe. Not even 25 years old, great savings, and ready to kick ass in self-employment! Yes I would love a follow-up post in 6 months!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Guest Post Author: I&#8217;m in awe. Not even 25 years old, great savings, and ready to kick ass in self-employment! Yes I would love a follow-up post in 6 months!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sassy Saver: I don&#039;t think he read most of ERE either. Mathmatically it is very possible to retire completely before 25 years of age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sassy Saver: I don&#8217;t think he read most of ERE either. Mathmatically it is very possible to retire completely before 25 years of age.</p>
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		<title>By: sassy saver</title>
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		<dc:creator>sassy saver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t think Kevinam read your post very well. It is possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think Kevinam read your post very well. It is possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest Post Author</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest Post Author</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sassy Saver: Only about $75k of our net worth is in retirement accounts. We of course would not draw down on funds in tax advantaged accounts to fund mini-retirement. One of the things that I probably should have been clearer on in my post is that I don&#039;t anticipate our mini-retirement lasting more than two years without at least ceasing to draw down on savings, if not beginning to replenish what we&#039;ve spent.

@Kevinam: I&#039;m happy to respond to your perspective or concerns if you articulate them, but a two-word reply doesn&#039;t give me much to go on. I&#039;ll start though: we have the money for at least ten years of zero income, and plan on taking at least two years off of work. Sounds very possible to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sassy Saver: Only about $75k of our net worth is in retirement accounts. We of course would not draw down on funds in tax advantaged accounts to fund mini-retirement. One of the things that I probably should have been clearer on in my post is that I don&#8217;t anticipate our mini-retirement lasting more than two years without at least ceasing to draw down on savings, if not beginning to replenish what we&#8217;ve spent.</p>
<p>@Kevinam: I&#8217;m happy to respond to your perspective or concerns if you articulate them, but a two-word reply doesn&#8217;t give me much to go on. I&#8217;ll start though: we have the money for at least ten years of zero income, and plan on taking at least two years off of work. Sounds very possible to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevinam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevinam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Impossible, sorry.</description>
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		<title>By: sassy saver</title>
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		<dc:creator>sassy saver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guest post- Thanks for your response..My other question is ...if some of the 300K is tied up in 401k and Roth accounts - are you planning to use that money for your mini retirement?
isn&#039;t your mini-retirement money really only going to come out of your taxable accounts?  I&#039;m a little confused...I have over $100K in my retirement accounts, but if I did a mini retirement, I wouldn&#039;t include that money as part of my spending...Could you explain a little more on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guest post- Thanks for your response..My other question is &#8230;if some of the 300K is tied up in 401k and Roth accounts &#8211; are you planning to use that money for your mini retirement?<br />
isn&#8217;t your mini-retirement money really only going to come out of your taxable accounts?  I&#8217;m a little confused&#8230;I have over $100K in my retirement accounts, but if I did a mini retirement, I wouldn&#8217;t include that money as part of my spending&#8230;Could you explain a little more on that?</p>
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		<title>By: tlblack</title>
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		<dc:creator>tlblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, yeah I wasn&#039;t thinking about careers where you can&#039;t go back! I was basing my comments solely on my own experience--but yes, I see how in some cases, you really couldn&#039;t go back to your old salary. 

In our case, we don&#039;t have a lot of responsibilities--no kids, no mortgage, not even a chia pet.  The risk of entrepreneurship is also not so big.  I don&#039;t have to make very much money to survive, and my salary wasn&#039;t huge before anyway, so the opportunity cost of trying something new is not as important. 

Your plan to retire permanently sounds like a good choice for you. In your position, I might very well do the same!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, yeah I wasn&#8217;t thinking about careers where you can&#8217;t go back! I was basing my comments solely on my own experience&#8211;but yes, I see how in some cases, you really couldn&#8217;t go back to your old salary. </p>
<p>In our case, we don&#8217;t have a lot of responsibilities&#8211;no kids, no mortgage, not even a chia pet.  The risk of entrepreneurship is also not so big.  I don&#8217;t have to make very much money to survive, and my salary wasn&#8217;t huge before anyway, so the opportunity cost of trying something new is not as important. </p>
<p>Your plan to retire permanently sounds like a good choice for you. In your position, I might very well do the same!</p>
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		<title>By: kenyantykoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenyantykoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i broke free of the 9-5 schedule at 23 and i  have not looked back since. i went into entrepreneurship and all that i can say is that life is much more interesting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i broke free of the 9-5 schedule at 23 and i  have not looked back since. i went into entrepreneurship and all that i can say is that life is much more interesting</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right, I am arguing with a side of myself that is miserable in my job (similar to you) and yearns to take a few years off. However, I feel I have an obligation to my family to be realistic about what taking a few years off would entail.  Would I be able to get another high paying job after taking that much off? No. They would not accept the fact that I was traveling or freelancing. That&#039;s just the way high-paying jobs for &quot;the man&quot; are. I don&#039;t think anyone benefits, if we pretend otherwise.

So either I would have to take a low paying job and work in it for a much longer time period or I could try to be an entrepreneur. The latter choice might sound awesome, but again, I owe it to my family and myself to be realistic about it. Most entrepreneurs fail. Most entrepreneurs also have to work like a dog as well. Just because I am talented enough to make a high income working for the man, does not mean I have the moxie to make it by myself. 

So by taking a few years off now, I am putting myself at a very high risk of 1) either having to work a lifetime at low wages or 2) a highly risky stint by myself working long hours struggling to make it. Whereas working another couple of years and being miserable at least I actually achieve financial freedom and don&#039;t have to face either of these two choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right, I am arguing with a side of myself that is miserable in my job (similar to you) and yearns to take a few years off. However, I feel I have an obligation to my family to be realistic about what taking a few years off would entail.  Would I be able to get another high paying job after taking that much off? No. They would not accept the fact that I was traveling or freelancing. That&#8217;s just the way high-paying jobs for &#8220;the man&#8221; are. I don&#8217;t think anyone benefits, if we pretend otherwise.</p>
<p>So either I would have to take a low paying job and work in it for a much longer time period or I could try to be an entrepreneur. The latter choice might sound awesome, but again, I owe it to my family and myself to be realistic about it. Most entrepreneurs fail. Most entrepreneurs also have to work like a dog as well. Just because I am talented enough to make a high income working for the man, does not mean I have the moxie to make it by myself. </p>
<p>So by taking a few years off now, I am putting myself at a very high risk of 1) either having to work a lifetime at low wages or 2) a highly risky stint by myself working long hours struggling to make it. Whereas working another couple of years and being miserable at least I actually achieve financial freedom and don&#8217;t have to face either of these two choices.</p>
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		<title>By: tlblack</title>
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		<dc:creator>tlblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guest post author, I agree with you that taking some time off is not a &#039;bad idea.&#039;  It is a choice.  You could sacrifice the next 4, 5, 6 years waiting to live or you could choose to have a smaller savings at the end and &#039;retire&#039; now.  Frankly, you could CHOOSE to work for 20 more years and retire with a much higher standard of living, but that&#039;s not the purpose of you post, is it?

DH and I could have stayed longer in higher paying jobs, thus saving much more aggressively, but we were miserable.  Why do that to yourself?  It sounds like you&#039;re contemplating a change anyway--either to a less stressful career or to self employment (with any luck both!).  So, since you&#039;re making a switch anyway, it leaves you with some freedom and time that you don&#039;t find every day.  Take advantage of it!  

I was a public school teacher in the US and DH and I have taken off and moved to France in the past--we even spent 6 months traveling around randomly between moves.  While in France, I taught English basically freelance to professionals (lots of fun). While traveling, I beefed up my Spanish--like you.  When I went back to looking for work, these things were actually an asset to me--I&#039;m a language teacher--so my experience was directly related.  Even the unrelated stuff can make your resume stand out in a pile.

Besides, your prospective employer is going to want to know what you did during a two year period.  He/She will not ask you how many hours a week you spent &#039;freelancing&#039; or whatever.

And being self-employed is one of my dreams.  I&#039;ve done it before on a pretty small scale, but loved it.  Very inspiring stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guest post author, I agree with you that taking some time off is not a &#8216;bad idea.&#8217;  It is a choice.  You could sacrifice the next 4, 5, 6 years waiting to live or you could choose to have a smaller savings at the end and &#8216;retire&#8217; now.  Frankly, you could CHOOSE to work for 20 more years and retire with a much higher standard of living, but that&#8217;s not the purpose of you post, is it?</p>
<p>DH and I could have stayed longer in higher paying jobs, thus saving much more aggressively, but we were miserable.  Why do that to yourself?  It sounds like you&#8217;re contemplating a change anyway&#8211;either to a less stressful career or to self employment (with any luck both!).  So, since you&#8217;re making a switch anyway, it leaves you with some freedom and time that you don&#8217;t find every day.  Take advantage of it!  </p>
<p>I was a public school teacher in the US and DH and I have taken off and moved to France in the past&#8211;we even spent 6 months traveling around randomly between moves.  While in France, I taught English basically freelance to professionals (lots of fun). While traveling, I beefed up my Spanish&#8211;like you.  When I went back to looking for work, these things were actually an asset to me&#8211;I&#8217;m a language teacher&#8211;so my experience was directly related.  Even the unrelated stuff can make your resume stand out in a pile.</p>
<p>Besides, your prospective employer is going to want to know what you did during a two year period.  He/She will not ask you how many hours a week you spent &#8216;freelancing&#8217; or whatever.</p>
<p>And being self-employed is one of my dreams.  I&#8217;ve done it before on a pretty small scale, but loved it.  Very inspiring stuff!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Guest Post Author</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex - Let&#039;s leave it at you being more risk averse than we are. Perhaps it&#039;s not what you would do, but I wouldn&#039;t call not working another four years in our current jobs a &quot;bad idea&quot;. (Recall how I described my job in my last comment.) Don&#039;t lose the broader context here. We are under 25 years old with no immediate plans for children and over $300k in the bank. We are well over the median net worth for ALL age groups in the United States. If our net worth drops to $200k on profligate spending without earning (it won&#039;t), I think you are overstating your case when you say that in that scenario we are &quot;jeopardizing our futures&quot; and &quot;risking our children&#039;s well-being.&quot; Excuse me if I am overstepping my bounds here, but perhaps you are justifying to yourself not doing something similar?

@Sassy Saver - See my comment above for our asset allocation. Everything was managed ourselves, although as I mentioned in the post our investment philosophy is quite passive - we didn&#039;t do anything fancy. Cheap index funds with scheduled rebalancing. That&#039;s all. Yes, the $300k does include 401(k) money.

@Stephanie - First off, 36 isn&#039;t 25, but it also isn&#039;t terribly old. Saving 50% of your gross income would be a great step for someone your age and would put you light years ahead of most of your colleagues. By the way, you&#039;re the first person I&#039;ve ever heard say that not being able to retire before 50 &quot;sucks&quot;. For most, that&#039;s a big win! Good luck saving!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex &#8211; Let&#8217;s leave it at you being more risk averse than we are. Perhaps it&#8217;s not what you would do, but I wouldn&#8217;t call not working another four years in our current jobs a &#8220;bad idea&#8221;. (Recall how I described my job in my last comment.) Don&#8217;t lose the broader context here. We are under 25 years old with no immediate plans for children and over $300k in the bank. We are well over the median net worth for ALL age groups in the United States. If our net worth drops to $200k on profligate spending without earning (it won&#8217;t), I think you are overstating your case when you say that in that scenario we are &#8220;jeopardizing our futures&#8221; and &#8220;risking our children&#8217;s well-being.&#8221; Excuse me if I am overstepping my bounds here, but perhaps you are justifying to yourself not doing something similar?</p>
<p>@Sassy Saver &#8211; See my comment above for our asset allocation. Everything was managed ourselves, although as I mentioned in the post our investment philosophy is quite passive &#8211; we didn&#8217;t do anything fancy. Cheap index funds with scheduled rebalancing. That&#8217;s all. Yes, the $300k does include 401(k) money.</p>
<p>@Stephanie &#8211; First off, 36 isn&#8217;t 25, but it also isn&#8217;t terribly old. Saving 50% of your gross income would be a great step for someone your age and would put you light years ahead of most of your colleagues. By the way, you&#8217;re the first person I&#8217;ve ever heard say that not being able to retire before 50 &#8220;sucks&#8221;. For most, that&#8217;s a big win! Good luck saving!</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  Amazing how you managed to save that much.  good for you!

We&#039;ve had several mini-retirements and I&#039;m glad we did.  Now 64 and unable to travel due to spouse&#039;s health.  Makes me appreciate the time we did have, even though our friends and family thought we were nuts when we left jobs to travel.

And here&#039;s a way you can make your retirement permanent.  Check out http://www.retireearlylifestyle.com/

And, no, I am not connected to the writers in any way except love to read their blog.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  Amazing how you managed to save that much.  good for you!</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve had several mini-retirements and I&#8217;m glad we did.  Now 64 and unable to travel due to spouse&#8217;s health.  Makes me appreciate the time we did have, even though our friends and family thought we were nuts when we left jobs to travel.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s a way you can make your retirement permanent.  Check out <a href="http://www.retireearlylifestyle.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.retireearlylifestyle.com/</a></p>
<p>And, no, I am not connected to the writers in any way except love to read their blog.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: stephanie</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this post a little depressing.  I&#039;ve been a highish-income earner since I was 23, but am only now figuring out the advantages to saving.  As a student I completely avoided debt by living on 12K a year (in a high cost of living city -- seems impossible, now, but I did it, without feeling deprived).  Then, as I started to earn more, I also spent more.  

I bought a condo at 25, and continued upgrading my lifestyle until I now find myself with a 450K mortgage and under 100K in the bank.

If I&#039;d somehow had the foresight to keep living like I did as a student, I could have saved between $40K - $100K a year as my income grew.  Now my expenses make this pretty difficult, though I am trying to save about 50% of my gross, putting most of it towards the mortgage...

Anyway, while I usually find this blog inspiring, somehow this post just put some things in perspective.  I&#039;m 36 and even though I am pretty frugal, with the mortgage and expenses I&#039;m stuck with ATM, there&#039;s no way I can retire before 50.  Sucks.  

The bright side is that we&#039;ll have a million dollar+ house by then (unless the markets collapse.) But will probably feel too attached to leave it, so the equity won&#039;t mean much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this post a little depressing.  I&#8217;ve been a highish-income earner since I was 23, but am only now figuring out the advantages to saving.  As a student I completely avoided debt by living on 12K a year (in a high cost of living city &#8212; seems impossible, now, but I did it, without feeling deprived).  Then, as I started to earn more, I also spent more.  </p>
<p>I bought a condo at 25, and continued upgrading my lifestyle until I now find myself with a 450K mortgage and under 100K in the bank.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;d somehow had the foresight to keep living like I did as a student, I could have saved between $40K &#8211; $100K a year as my income grew.  Now my expenses make this pretty difficult, though I am trying to save about 50% of my gross, putting most of it towards the mortgage&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, while I usually find this blog inspiring, somehow this post just put some things in perspective.  I&#8217;m 36 and even though I am pretty frugal, with the mortgage and expenses I&#8217;m stuck with ATM, there&#8217;s no way I can retire before 50.  Sucks.  </p>
<p>The bright side is that we&#8217;ll have a million dollar+ house by then (unless the markets collapse.) But will probably feel too attached to leave it, so the equity won&#8217;t mean much.</p>
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