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		<title>By: jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob,

I agree with almost everything you said, but I actually I have already bought 2 flat and I let them out, while I live in small rented bungallow. I also have plans to buy more buy to let property, because I don&#039;t trust neither the stock nor the finacial market. I don&#039;t trust even the dollar (or euro.) Gold is probably good, but does not pay interest.

My strategy is to buy at least 3 flats and fully own them. I need one to live in, one to cover the bills (electricity, heating etc.) and a third one to buy food. Whatever happens with the real estate prices or with the money market, I will have a place to live, and won&#039;t starve.</description>
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<p>I agree with almost everything you said, but I actually I have already bought 2 flat and I let them out, while I live in small rented bungallow. I also have plans to buy more buy to let property, because I don&#8217;t trust neither the stock nor the finacial market. I don&#8217;t trust even the dollar (or euro.) Gold is probably good, but does not pay interest.</p>
<p>My strategy is to buy at least 3 flats and fully own them. I need one to live in, one to cover the bills (electricity, heating etc.) and a third one to buy food. Whatever happens with the real estate prices or with the money market, I will have a place to live, and won&#8217;t starve.</p>
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		<title>By: MyMoneyDesign.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>MyMoneyDesign.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post!  I have not read you book yet, but I would imagine that a lot of this is already in there or the makings of a new book!  I especially agree with your sections on health, marriage (and family), etc.  The goal of financial independence is not to buy more, but to be able to take care of yourself and those you love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post!  I have not read you book yet, but I would imagine that a lot of this is already in there or the makings of a new book!  I especially agree with your sections on health, marriage (and family), etc.  The goal of financial independence is not to buy more, but to be able to take care of yourself and those you love.</p>
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		<title>By: magecanuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>magecanuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 15:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JACOB THANK YOU FOR WRITING (FLOSS DAILY!) UNDER #2 HEALTH!!!!!!!!!  if you like having teeth to smile, bite, chew and talk, you need to heed this advice.  :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JACOB THANK YOU FOR WRITING (FLOSS DAILY!) UNDER #2 HEALTH!!!!!!!!!  if you like having teeth to smile, bite, chew and talk, you need to heed this advice.  <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mikel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting, but troubling in some ways. I recognize that this a financial site but still it seems to overstate the case that happiness is a financial matter. Other than a rather utilitarian approach to choosing a mate, the advice seems to be little interested in community, family, and home. A rural existence seems to be out of the question. Children are seen as a lengthy drain on one&#039;s resources. There seems to be no value placed on proximity to other family members and neighbors. Home is seen as either an asset or liability but not as a site of living. One&#039;s faith and one&#039;s intellectual interests seem to be written off in favor of lucrative branches of &quot;rocket science.&quot; Am I missing something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting, but troubling in some ways. I recognize that this a financial site but still it seems to overstate the case that happiness is a financial matter. Other than a rather utilitarian approach to choosing a mate, the advice seems to be little interested in community, family, and home. A rural existence seems to be out of the question. Children are seen as a lengthy drain on one&#8217;s resources. There seems to be no value placed on proximity to other family members and neighbors. Home is seen as either an asset or liability but not as a site of living. One&#8217;s faith and one&#8217;s intellectual interests seem to be written off in favor of lucrative branches of &#8220;rocket science.&#8221; Am I missing something?</p>
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		<title>By: brauhster</title>
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		<dc:creator>brauhster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such widom for one so young.  You are not only smart, but wise in important ways.  To bad the Internet and you were not around 50 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such widom for one so young.  You are not only smart, but wise in important ways.  To bad the Internet and you were not around 50 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dragline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, re the kids, your advice is amusing because it is obvious you don&#039;t have any (yet).  But it is similar to what I thought before I became a parent.

First, you are going to be stuck with them for much longer than 18 years!  Of course, eventually, they will be stuck with you!

Second, parenting is not a &quot;job&quot;, although it can seem like it sometimes.  Its more of a lifestyle, experience or process.  It will change you and your spouse as much as it does your children, and hopefully for the better.

Third, despite your best efforts (or worst), your children may turn out much better or worse than you expect.  There is a great deal of risk and unpredictability that most new parents have a hard time accepting -- hence, the large and ridiculous market for &quot;baby educating&quot; devices.  

And nature plays just as big a role as nurture.  It is amusing seeing your spouse&#039;s worst foibles in your kids, but not so much your own.  And they may remind you of a sibling or a parent or aunt or uncle sometimes.  Or they may have an outstanding talent or personality trait that you can&#039;t comprehend.  Or a disability that you could not have anticipated.

P.S. -- they don&#039;t always believe what you tell them.  In fact, sometimes they refuse to believe anything you tell them and need to learn things through experience.  Allowing them to fail is often as important as guiding them to succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, re the kids, your advice is amusing because it is obvious you don&#8217;t have any (yet).  But it is similar to what I thought before I became a parent.</p>
<p>First, you are going to be stuck with them for much longer than 18 years!  Of course, eventually, they will be stuck with you!</p>
<p>Second, parenting is not a &#8220;job&#8221;, although it can seem like it sometimes.  Its more of a lifestyle, experience or process.  It will change you and your spouse as much as it does your children, and hopefully for the better.</p>
<p>Third, despite your best efforts (or worst), your children may turn out much better or worse than you expect.  There is a great deal of risk and unpredictability that most new parents have a hard time accepting &#8212; hence, the large and ridiculous market for &#8220;baby educating&#8221; devices.  </p>
<p>And nature plays just as big a role as nurture.  It is amusing seeing your spouse&#8217;s worst foibles in your kids, but not so much your own.  And they may remind you of a sibling or a parent or aunt or uncle sometimes.  Or they may have an outstanding talent or personality trait that you can&#8217;t comprehend.  Or a disability that you could not have anticipated.</p>
<p>P.S. &#8212; they don&#8217;t always believe what you tell them.  In fact, sometimes they refuse to believe anything you tell them and need to learn things through experience.  Allowing them to fail is often as important as guiding them to succeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol@inthetrenches</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol@inthetrenches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your recommended savings amount of $1,500 to $2,000 hit me with force.  They are great numbers but for many I have known it is their entire monthly income and I should note that they live well on it.  Love how the post touchs so many areas and that&#039;s what good management is about - balance and progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your recommended savings amount of $1,500 to $2,000 hit me with force.  They are great numbers but for many I have known it is their entire monthly income and I should note that they live well on it.  Love how the post touchs so many areas and that&#8217;s what good management is about &#8211; balance and progress.</p>
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		<title>By: RMcD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RMcD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was very clearly &quot;how I am happy in the long run&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was very clearly &#8220;how I am happy in the long run&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: FreeUrChains</title>
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		<dc:creator>FreeUrChains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Darren above, You said it truthfully! Especially 24-28 year old co-workers will conspire job politically against you and make fun of you, while the 50+ coworkers dream of their grandeur illusion of 70+ Retirement/$70k spending per year, and say you better keep working! Don&#039;t listen to your coworkers! They are mere sheep to the slaugher, i mean wool shredders.

As for finding the wife; If need be, create some activities that you truly enjoy for free, and promote those groups/activites that you created, so others can share in the fun! Your future wife will be so impressed that she will want to steal you away for a lifetime and you get to have fun doing your own activities together! Also, Religion is simple, follow the courage in your heart to follow righteousness. This shows bravery and self-sacrifice, and again, your future wife will be impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Darren above, You said it truthfully! Especially 24-28 year old co-workers will conspire job politically against you and make fun of you, while the 50+ coworkers dream of their grandeur illusion of 70+ Retirement/$70k spending per year, and say you better keep working! Don&#8217;t listen to your coworkers! They are mere sheep to the slaugher, i mean wool shredders.</p>
<p>As for finding the wife; If need be, create some activities that you truly enjoy for free, and promote those groups/activites that you created, so others can share in the fun! Your future wife will be so impressed that she will want to steal you away for a lifetime and you get to have fun doing your own activities together! Also, Religion is simple, follow the courage in your heart to follow righteousness. This shows bravery and self-sacrifice, and again, your future wife will be impressed.</p>
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		<title>By: FreeUrChains</title>
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		<dc:creator>FreeUrChains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 17:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW: Originally posted 2008-01-30 07:20:50. 

I am glad I have a Toyotta Corolla. No problems at all the last 3 years, another 12 to go; however, by then I may be backpacking/train-riding European/World Coastlines with my Wife, looking for great spots to rest for a month or so.
For a year or two. Then we will want be out of that phase and go back to America&#039;s Lands...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW: Originally posted 2008-01-30 07:20:50. </p>
<p>I am glad I have a Toyotta Corolla. No problems at all the last 3 years, another 12 to go; however, by then I may be backpacking/train-riding European/World Coastlines with my Wife, looking for great spots to rest for a month or so.<br />
For a year or two. Then we will want be out of that phase and go back to America&#8217;s Lands&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 17:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jose Dias - It&#039;ll allow you to read company financial statements to analyze investments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jose Dias &#8211; It&#8217;ll allow you to read company financial statements to analyze investments.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Dias</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose Dias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 17:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob, could you write more about the reasons why &quot;accounting&quot; would be a good course to take?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob, could you write more about the reasons why &#8220;accounting&#8221; would be a good course to take?</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice old post! I would send it to my coworkers but they would simply delete it as a crazy ranting from the strange office worker that makes his lunch every day out of oatmeal and flax seed. 

I like the judgement scale that fathersez put up for relationships. I guess no one I&#039;ve met has fulfilled the list. I keep being defeated by the religious/spiritual problem. I am not religious and the best ones I&#039;ve met are which leads to them constantly trying to convert met or trying to guilt me into going. I guess I&#039;ll just stay single and continue to live comfortable in my RV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice old post! I would send it to my coworkers but they would simply delete it as a crazy ranting from the strange office worker that makes his lunch every day out of oatmeal and flax seed. </p>
<p>I like the judgement scale that fathersez put up for relationships. I guess no one I&#8217;ve met has fulfilled the list. I keep being defeated by the religious/spiritual problem. I am not religious and the best ones I&#8217;ve met are which leads to them constantly trying to convert met or trying to guilt me into going. I guess I&#8217;ll just stay single and continue to live comfortable in my RV.</p>
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		<title>By: palvar</title>
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		<dc:creator>palvar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Archaeologists are actually more employable than you may think.  Thanks to the National Historic Preservation Act, any construction which requires a Federal (or in some cases, state) permit requires an archaeological survey.  My company consults for utilities and they hire us for archaeology studies all of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Archaeologists are actually more employable than you may think.  Thanks to the National Historic Preservation Act, any construction which requires a Federal (or in some cases, state) permit requires an archaeological survey.  My company consults for utilities and they hire us for archaeology studies all of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great post Jacob. However, one thing - I still think buying a house is a good idea IF you use the house as an asset and not a liability. Perhaps here in Europe people are less troubled by sharing their houses with others - having recently bought a house, I&#039;m pleased to say that the lodgers staying with me cover more than mortgage, giving me somewhere free to live plus a small but growing income. You just have to get the numbers to stack up, but with house prices lower than they were a few years ago this is quite possible, even in an expensive city like London.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great post Jacob. However, one thing &#8211; I still think buying a house is a good idea IF you use the house as an asset and not a liability. Perhaps here in Europe people are less troubled by sharing their houses with others &#8211; having recently bought a house, I&#8217;m pleased to say that the lodgers staying with me cover more than mortgage, giving me somewhere free to live plus a small but growing income. You just have to get the numbers to stack up, but with house prices lower than they were a few years ago this is quite possible, even in an expensive city like London.</p>
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		<title>By: jennypenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennypenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@deegee--I agree with you (and chef) that religion and spirituality don&#039;t quite fit in another section. I guess I&#039;d add a section (#1A?) to discover/decide what your beliefs and values are. They might change over time, but if a person takes the time to learn more about themselves first, they&#039;ll produce a more honest and sustainable plan during the following steps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@deegee&#8211;I agree with you (and chef) that religion and spirituality don&#8217;t quite fit in another section. I guess I&#8217;d add a section (#1A?) to discover/decide what your beliefs and values are. They might change over time, but if a person takes the time to learn more about themselves first, they&#8217;ll produce a more honest and sustainable plan during the following steps.</p>
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		<title>By: deegee</title>
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		<dc:creator>deegee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob, interesting post.

I am glad you started off the section about children by suggesting that peopole consider IF they should even have children.  Same for deciding IF to marry, as it is not for everyone, either.

I agree with those who who disagree about index funds.  My advice there is that they are good for longer-term investing, such as in IRAs or 401(k)s, because the compounding effect of having low expense ratios will boost the value of those accounts.

I also liked that you specifically mentioned in your list of preferred cars a Toyota Corolla.  They do last a long time, especially if you don&#039;t drive them a lot.  I bought a 1991 Geo Prism (basically a Corolla) back in 1992 and it lasted for 15 years.  Then, in 2001, I bought the real deal, a Corolla itself.  I expect that one to last me 15 years, too, because they are so reliable.

I also agree with Chef&#039;s comment about religion and spirituality being worthy of its own section.  I am an atheist so I find the absence of a belief in god quite spiritual and gratifying in its own way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob, interesting post.</p>
<p>I am glad you started off the section about children by suggesting that peopole consider IF they should even have children.  Same for deciding IF to marry, as it is not for everyone, either.</p>
<p>I agree with those who who disagree about index funds.  My advice there is that they are good for longer-term investing, such as in IRAs or 401(k)s, because the compounding effect of having low expense ratios will boost the value of those accounts.</p>
<p>I also liked that you specifically mentioned in your list of preferred cars a Toyota Corolla.  They do last a long time, especially if you don&#8217;t drive them a lot.  I bought a 1991 Geo Prism (basically a Corolla) back in 1992 and it lasted for 15 years.  Then, in 2001, I bought the real deal, a Corolla itself.  I expect that one to last me 15 years, too, because they are so reliable.</p>
<p>I also agree with Chef&#8217;s comment about religion and spirituality being worthy of its own section.  I am an atheist so I find the absence of a belief in god quite spiritual and gratifying in its own way.</p>
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		<title>By: GammaPoint</title>
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		<dc:creator>GammaPoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 23:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really glad to have found your blog Jacob, it&#039;s great (MossySF mentioned it on the Bogleheads forums). Reading some of your posts you sound a lot like me (except I like index funds :) ). I&#039;m a graduate PhD student in physics at Berkeley towards the end of the program. I&#039;m hoping to stay in the field and work but at the same time I save as much as I can so that if things don&#039;t work out as planned I can retire early, as my happiness is much more derived from being able to do what I want to do (which at the moment is mostly things like cycling, weight lifting, cooking, playing with POVRAY, etc.) and I don&#039;t care much about &quot;keeping up with the Joneses&quot;. I look forward to reading more of your posts.

Best,
GP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really glad to have found your blog Jacob, it&#8217;s great (MossySF mentioned it on the Bogleheads forums). Reading some of your posts you sound a lot like me (except I like index funds <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ). I&#8217;m a graduate PhD student in physics at Berkeley towards the end of the program. I&#8217;m hoping to stay in the field and work but at the same time I save as much as I can so that if things don&#8217;t work out as planned I can retire early, as my happiness is much more derived from being able to do what I want to do (which at the moment is mostly things like cycling, weight lifting, cooking, playing with POVRAY, etc.) and I don&#8217;t care much about &#8220;keeping up with the Joneses&#8221;. I look forward to reading more of your posts.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
GP</p>
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		<title>By: MossySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>MossySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 17:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you are saying &quot;don&#039;t invest in the broad market because everybody is doing it&quot; ... then 21% is not substantial. That number also only is a percentage of the mutual fund total. Insiders (who hold stock directly) and pensions (not mutual funds) are in a different universe. In addition, growth (up from 16% in 2007) is primarily due to speculative ETFs. Hence, you can have your reasons to not like a broad market funds but saying everybody is doing it would be false.

In addition, even if you don&#039;t like a broad market strategy, you can still use it to great effect. If your plan is to hold 100 stocks but 80 of them can be collapsed to a matching index, that would greatly improve the execution of an investment strategy. I can say from experience that too much complexity, too many transactions can put a damper on even the best strategy because just going through the motions of submitting buy &amp; sell orders was complete brain damage.

Pensions act like broad markets not because they don&#039;t have active managers but because they have too much money and have to invest in everything anyways. They certainly are trying to beat the market but many are doing worse (e.g. CalPERS) with their private equity deals and direct real estate investments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you are saying &#8220;don&#8217;t invest in the broad market because everybody is doing it&#8221; &#8230; then 21% is not substantial. That number also only is a percentage of the mutual fund total. Insiders (who hold stock directly) and pensions (not mutual funds) are in a different universe. In addition, growth (up from 16% in 2007) is primarily due to speculative ETFs. Hence, you can have your reasons to not like a broad market funds but saying everybody is doing it would be false.</p>
<p>In addition, even if you don&#8217;t like a broad market strategy, you can still use it to great effect. If your plan is to hold 100 stocks but 80 of them can be collapsed to a matching index, that would greatly improve the execution of an investment strategy. I can say from experience that too much complexity, too many transactions can put a damper on even the best strategy because just going through the motions of submitting buy &amp; sell orders was complete brain damage.</p>
<p>Pensions act like broad markets not because they don&#8217;t have active managers but because they have too much money and have to invest in everything anyways. They certainly are trying to beat the market but many are doing worse (e.g. CalPERS) with their private equity deals and direct real estate investments.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 06:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MossySF - Isn&#039;t 21% substantial? Subtracting insiders and pension funds (who in the aggregate might as well be an index fund), how much is really left?

Well ... I know indexes are on a sliding scale and that indexes are composed different---for example, the 20 biggest companies in the S&amp;P500 comprise a very hefty portion of the market. When I say index funds I have meant broad market funds, not sector or subsector funds. I shall henceforth refer to them as broad market funds. What really matters is the amount of correlation/coupling their usage builds into the market. Diversifying with index funds means decoupling from individual stocks but coupling to other index funds. I submit there&#039;s some delusion going on ... or at least the systemic consequences are not fully realized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MossySF &#8211; Isn&#8217;t 21% substantial? Subtracting insiders and pension funds (who in the aggregate might as well be an index fund), how much is really left?</p>
<p>Well &#8230; I know indexes are on a sliding scale and that indexes are composed different&#8212;for example, the 20 biggest companies in the S&amp;P500 comprise a very hefty portion of the market. When I say index funds I have meant broad market funds, not sector or subsector funds. I shall henceforth refer to them as broad market funds. What really matters is the amount of correlation/coupling their usage builds into the market. Diversifying with index funds means decoupling from individual stocks but coupling to other index funds. I submit there&#8217;s some delusion going on &#8230; or at least the systemic consequences are not fully realized.</p>
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