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		<title>By: 44deagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>44deagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 07:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to wait until the velocity of money picks up before I sell stocks.

With all the money that has been pumped into the system and still is being pumped in, eventually there will be a nice rise in EPS when the velocity picks up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to wait until the velocity of money picks up before I sell stocks.</p>
<p>With all the money that has been pumped into the system and still is being pumped in, eventually there will be a nice rise in EPS when the velocity picks up.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang, added another 10% to my portfolio since my comment on the 13th and even I&#039;m feeling the market is too high now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang, added another 10% to my portfolio since my comment on the 13th and even I&#8217;m feeling the market is too high now.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in W MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve in W MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction, I meant, &quot;the commercial mortgage situation&quot;, not the commercial loan situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction, I meant, &#8220;the commercial mortgage situation&#8221;, not the commercial loan situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in W MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve in W MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happens when the commercial loan situation hits home and more and more smaller banks have to get rescued by FDIC, assuming FDIC can remain solvent? How is this going to affect consumer spending? I think it will freak the h*** out of everyone.

@ George, it&#039;s true that consumer spending could go up because it has been depressed for about a year, but when you realize that overall market levels are currently at pre-crash levels even without the consumer spending and overall economic activity to back it up, you kind of have to wonder what the heck is going on and who is going to keep buying equities under this scenario. 

Private equity looks to be trying to cash in on a lot of their positions right about now, which is certainly not a bullish sign. 

I don&#039;t have the answers either but those are some of my thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens when the commercial loan situation hits home and more and more smaller banks have to get rescued by FDIC, assuming FDIC can remain solvent? How is this going to affect consumer spending? I think it will freak the h*** out of everyone.</p>
<p>@ George, it&#8217;s true that consumer spending could go up because it has been depressed for about a year, but when you realize that overall market levels are currently at pre-crash levels even without the consumer spending and overall economic activity to back it up, you kind of have to wonder what the heck is going on and who is going to keep buying equities under this scenario. </p>
<p>Private equity looks to be trying to cash in on a lot of their positions right about now, which is certainly not a bullish sign. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have the answers either but those are some of my thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Lovingood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Lovingood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where the market is going is a tough question. Realistically we should still be going down but psychologically things never head in one direction for ever.

I wrote two long posts on the stock market that you may find interesting.  I was wrong on September :)  but am willing to bet a nice steak dinner (cooked on my backyard grill) that the market will be lower in a year than it is now.  

http://www.askthewealthsquad.com/blog/stock-market-prediction-year-2009/

http://www.askthewealthsquad.com/blog/why-you-should-get-out-of-the-stock-market-now/

Leveraged muni bond funds may not be a bad idea to invest in.  I have been in and out of BFK over the past couple of years.  Pays a nice tax free yield.  They have others that are specific for states with high tax as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where the market is going is a tough question. Realistically we should still be going down but psychologically things never head in one direction for ever.</p>
<p>I wrote two long posts on the stock market that you may find interesting.  I was wrong on September <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   but am willing to bet a nice steak dinner (cooked on my backyard grill) that the market will be lower in a year than it is now.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.askthewealthsquad.com/blog/stock-market-prediction-year-2009/" rel="nofollow">http://www.askthewealthsquad.com/blog/stock-market-prediction-year-2009/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.askthewealthsquad.com/blog/why-you-should-get-out-of-the-stock-market-now/" rel="nofollow">http://www.askthewealthsquad.com/blog/why-you-should-get-out-of-the-stock-market-now/</a></p>
<p>Leveraged muni bond funds may not be a bad idea to invest in.  I have been in and out of BFK over the past couple of years.  Pays a nice tax free yield.  They have others that are specific for states with high tax as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@George - you raise a good point, but consumers could consume less if:
a) ARMs reset as we&#039;ve been hearing they will
b) inflation outpaces wage growth
c) momentum - enough bad news happens that businesses decide not to invest in new equipment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@George &#8211; you raise a good point, but consumers could consume less if:<br />
a) ARMs reset as we&#8217;ve been hearing they will<br />
b) inflation outpaces wage growth<br />
c) momentum &#8211; enough bad news happens that businesses decide not to invest in new equipment</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to err in the direction of holding on too long.  I think I&#039;m going to take this opportunity to sell one stock with a sky-high P/E ratio and with dividends cut to nothing and invest that money in my mortgage.  I may even do the same with my stock that has a reasonable P/E ratio but whose dividends have been cut in half.

I have too few years left on my mortgage to make refinancing economically feasible even though my interest rate is 6.625%.  Since I&#039;m at the 15% marginal income tax rate (in a state with no state income tax), that&#039;s an effective mortgage interest rate of 5.63%.  (I&#039;m pretty sure that my property taxes plus charitable contributions now exceed the standard deduction.  My state has high property taxes.)

Of course that means I can&#039;t really get at that money for 3 years.  Another idea is to use the money to make renovations earlier (at possibly still recession/panic prices).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to err in the direction of holding on too long.  I think I&#8217;m going to take this opportunity to sell one stock with a sky-high P/E ratio and with dividends cut to nothing and invest that money in my mortgage.  I may even do the same with my stock that has a reasonable P/E ratio but whose dividends have been cut in half.</p>
<p>I have too few years left on my mortgage to make refinancing economically feasible even though my interest rate is 6.625%.  Since I&#8217;m at the 15% marginal income tax rate (in a state with no state income tax), that&#8217;s an effective mortgage interest rate of 5.63%.  (I&#8217;m pretty sure that my property taxes plus charitable contributions now exceed the standard deduction.  My state has high property taxes.)</p>
<p>Of course that means I can&#8217;t really get at that money for 3 years.  Another idea is to use the money to make renovations earlier (at possibly still recession/panic prices).</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why will the market go down?  Only if the consumer consumes less.  We&#039;ve already had a year&#039;s worth of &quot;less consuming&quot; (except for the cash-for-clunkers spurt), so will the consumer really tighten the belt further?

On the other hand, prognosticators have said that unemployment is expected to decrease in the next quarter, thus if it does not, then the market won&#039;t be very happy.  My own opinion is that it will not decrease since 1st quarter is traditionally not a hiring time.

Second quarter is as soon as I foresee an uptick in employment and, if that happens, the market will respond very favorably in March as &quot;people on the inside&quot; get to see their own company&#039;s actions and forecasts regarding new hires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why will the market go down?  Only if the consumer consumes less.  We&#8217;ve already had a year&#8217;s worth of &#8220;less consuming&#8221; (except for the cash-for-clunkers spurt), so will the consumer really tighten the belt further?</p>
<p>On the other hand, prognosticators have said that unemployment is expected to decrease in the next quarter, thus if it does not, then the market won&#8217;t be very happy.  My own opinion is that it will not decrease since 1st quarter is traditionally not a hiring time.</p>
<p>Second quarter is as soon as I foresee an uptick in employment and, if that happens, the market will respond very favorably in March as &#8220;people on the inside&#8221; get to see their own company&#8217;s actions and forecasts regarding new hires.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the same nagging feeling as Jacob, but the few individual stocks I own are still at decent P/Es - none above 15 - and all have good yields.  So I may hang around awhile and just take the dividends.  I don&#039;t have any huge positions so options aren&#039;t in my toolbox yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same nagging feeling as Jacob, but the few individual stocks I own are still at decent P/Es &#8211; none above 15 &#8211; and all have good yields.  So I may hang around awhile and just take the dividends.  I don&#8217;t have any huge positions so options aren&#8217;t in my toolbox yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, let me say that I love this site, and really love the comments, ERE has helped me immensely.  Jacob, today&#039;s post reminds me of something that I took issue with back when I first discovered your site, and that&#039;s the part that says something along the lines of &#039;these are not special times&#039;.  I know what you mean, and yes, it’s true, this has happened before, but not to the USA in the digital age.  As a country we are bankrupt, our dollar is on the verge of losing reserve currency status, and the stock market &#039;recovery&#039; that we have is being blown by high-frequency trading computers in an effort from keeping the first point off the minds of J6P.  These times seem just a little special to me.  And then the obvious question, just how do you invest in this sort of climate?  Myself, I&#039;m in commodities, (including metals, as you can&#039;t eat mutual funds either and they can&#039;t inflate gold), and cash, waiting for a pullback.  But I could see this market rallying to 20,000 or crashing next week.  Who knows?  It&#039;s very difficult to navigate these waters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, let me say that I love this site, and really love the comments, ERE has helped me immensely.  Jacob, today&#8217;s post reminds me of something that I took issue with back when I first discovered your site, and that&#8217;s the part that says something along the lines of &#8216;these are not special times&#8217;.  I know what you mean, and yes, it’s true, this has happened before, but not to the USA in the digital age.  As a country we are bankrupt, our dollar is on the verge of losing reserve currency status, and the stock market &#8216;recovery&#8217; that we have is being blown by high-frequency trading computers in an effort from keeping the first point off the minds of J6P.  These times seem just a little special to me.  And then the obvious question, just how do you invest in this sort of climate?  Myself, I&#8217;m in commodities, (including metals, as you can&#8217;t eat mutual funds either and they can&#8217;t inflate gold), and cash, waiting for a pullback.  But I could see this market rallying to 20,000 or crashing next week.  Who knows?  It&#8217;s very difficult to navigate these waters.</p>
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		<title>By: 00Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>00Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve also had a lot of shares called away, and more are closing ITM this week.  I&#039;ve put some of that cash to work in put spreads, a bearish strategy.  I would only do that with a fairly simple stock, not with a major conglomerate or ETF, though.  I have one on ANF.

HSpencer:  I, personally, do not buy bonds except when Fed-directed interest rates are sky-high.  Bonds are &quot;cheapest&quot; when interest rates are very high; they become fully valued when interest rates approach zero.  Since interest rates are at historic lows, the value of the bonds cannot but decrease.  Short-term bonds (maturing before the Fed raises interest rates again) may be a different story.  This is an American perspective; substitute your central bank of choice.

As an inflation hedge, I prefer timber; I own stock in PCL (Plum Creek Timber).  Plum Creek sells lumber, mineral rights, and usage rights (power lines and wind turbines) associated with its land.  It also has an attractive dividend.  

Dividend Growth Investor:  I agree; there&#039;s an opportunity cost associated with not owning stocks.  I also hope the market drops from here, though the dip may be more shallow than March 09; the people who are kicking themselves for not buying JNJ at $45 (me) will pile in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve also had a lot of shares called away, and more are closing ITM this week.  I&#8217;ve put some of that cash to work in put spreads, a bearish strategy.  I would only do that with a fairly simple stock, not with a major conglomerate or ETF, though.  I have one on ANF.</p>
<p>HSpencer:  I, personally, do not buy bonds except when Fed-directed interest rates are sky-high.  Bonds are &#8220;cheapest&#8221; when interest rates are very high; they become fully valued when interest rates approach zero.  Since interest rates are at historic lows, the value of the bonds cannot but decrease.  Short-term bonds (maturing before the Fed raises interest rates again) may be a different story.  This is an American perspective; substitute your central bank of choice.</p>
<p>As an inflation hedge, I prefer timber; I own stock in PCL (Plum Creek Timber).  Plum Creek sells lumber, mineral rights, and usage rights (power lines and wind turbines) associated with its land.  It also has an attractive dividend.  </p>
<p>Dividend Growth Investor:  I agree; there&#8217;s an opportunity cost associated with not owning stocks.  I also hope the market drops from here, though the dip may be more shallow than March 09; the people who are kicking themselves for not buying JNJ at $45 (me) will pile in.</p>
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		<title>By: Dividend Growth Investor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dividend Growth Investor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is true that a lot of the stocks have gotten overvalued.. But then, what are your alternatives to holding stocks in the long run? What happens if this &quot; Irrational Exuberance&quot; continues for 4 more years ( there was one in 1996 that did continue for 4 years).

Fixed income delivers lower yields than most high quality stocks, even after the run up in March. Gold doesn&#039;t deliver any yield at all..

Of course when stocks are moving up, it feels great to own them.. When they were at awfuly low valuations in early 2009 noone believed in stocks. I am finding few attractively valued companies now.. It&#039;s mainly been the same stocks being undervalued for about 2-3 months now. If I keep adding to those same positions I would be exposing myself to a high degree of risk.... 
I really hope the market goes down 20% from here ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true that a lot of the stocks have gotten overvalued.. But then, what are your alternatives to holding stocks in the long run? What happens if this &#8221; Irrational Exuberance&#8221; continues for 4 more years ( there was one in 1996 that did continue for 4 years).</p>
<p>Fixed income delivers lower yields than most high quality stocks, even after the run up in March. Gold doesn&#8217;t deliver any yield at all..</p>
<p>Of course when stocks are moving up, it feels great to own them.. When they were at awfuly low valuations in early 2009 noone believed in stocks. I am finding few attractively valued companies now.. It&#8217;s mainly been the same stocks being undervalued for about 2-3 months now. If I keep adding to those same positions I would be exposing myself to a high degree of risk&#8230;.<br />
I really hope the market goes down 20% from here <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: HSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>HSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I state from the first shot that I am NO stock market guru.
However I believe we are in a run up.  It makes sense that we are.  DOW 3800 in mid 2010?
Yipes.  I think best shots are in cash and really high quality bonds.  Slow pay money market if high quality.
Above are scenarios from the best respected economic forecasters if you follow those.  I think the rug is fixing to get jerked hard by late 09-early 10.  I DO NOT buy or sell stocks anymore at all, but still follow some leads on it and follow some previous trends.  The biggies make money on the way up, and the way down.  Watch out.  
Nor do I buy gold or silver, nor do I invest in foreign currency.  I have not found any metal that is edibile.
If one is a stock market investor, well tuned, intelligent, in the know and on the go--well I supose they will be ok, and I certainly wish them the very best!!!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I state from the first shot that I am NO stock market guru.<br />
However I believe we are in a run up.  It makes sense that we are.  DOW 3800 in mid 2010?<br />
Yipes.  I think best shots are in cash and really high quality bonds.  Slow pay money market if high quality.<br />
Above are scenarios from the best respected economic forecasters if you follow those.  I think the rug is fixing to get jerked hard by late 09-early 10.  I DO NOT buy or sell stocks anymore at all, but still follow some leads on it and follow some previous trends.  The biggies make money on the way up, and the way down.  Watch out.<br />
Nor do I buy gold or silver, nor do I invest in foreign currency.  I have not found any metal that is edibile.<br />
If one is a stock market investor, well tuned, intelligent, in the know and on the go&#8211;well I supose they will be ok, and I certainly wish them the very best!!!  <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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