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		<title>By: anonymous queer</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous queer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually--I am homosexual and my partner and I are about the same size and we do share clothes. Not, you know, a whole wardrobe but it&#039;s handy if it&#039;s an item neither of you needs all that often and rarely at the same time. Usually this is outerwear. But all things being equal we have such different tastes that even if it fits most of the items aren&#039;t my style. Sorry for any of you who took that joke seriously;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually&#8211;I am homosexual and my partner and I are about the same size and we do share clothes. Not, you know, a whole wardrobe but it&#8217;s handy if it&#8217;s an item neither of you needs all that often and rarely at the same time. Usually this is outerwear. But all things being equal we have such different tastes that even if it fits most of the items aren&#8217;t my style. Sorry for any of you who took that joke seriously;)</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I am far more drawn to people who think of fun, imaginative things to do on a date than go to a bar, cinema or restaurant.

My OH blew me away on one of our first dates when we went walking and he had come prepared with a portable stove and homemade soup and rolls to heat up for lunch.  The time he spent preparing and thinking about impressed me far more than any money he could have spent in a restaurant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I am far more drawn to people who think of fun, imaginative things to do on a date than go to a bar, cinema or restaurant.</p>
<p>My OH blew me away on one of our first dates when we went walking and he had come prepared with a portable stove and homemade soup and rolls to heat up for lunch.  The time he spent preparing and thinking about impressed me far more than any money he could have spent in a restaurant.</p>
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		<title>By: JerseyGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>JerseyGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have thought a lot about this issue since discovering ERE. I have seen male commenters insist that all woman want men to spend lots of money on them, and so a frugal man is bound to die alone. 

I&#039;ll try not to write a novel here. What I see is the following:

- It is easy for a man to bed a woman who only asks that he buy xyz for her. It is harder to woo a woman who is looking for something other than xyz baubles/gazinguses/dinners. What does she want? Can it be provided easily or even at all? How long will it take before she is won over? Focusing on the spendthrift women is an easy route to sexual gratification. {Sorry to offend sensitive readers.}

- It is in a woman&#039;s best interest to ensure a man is truly committed to her before she commits to him. Men who TALK a good game but don&#039;t take concrete action end up leaving a woman in the lurch. Putting his money where his mouth is, so to speak, helps a woman to weed out men who have no intention of sticking around and being committed partners. 

- Men are easily fooled by artifice. I see women who are facially unfortunate (euphemism for ugly as homemade sin) but are made up with lots of makeup and fancy clothes... and they trick men into believing they are actually attractive. Men are easily won over by a push up bra, Botox and bleached hair, even on a woman who would otherwise only turn heads in disgust. That&#039;s why women spend money on those trappings! Why lose out in the competition for a mate when buying lotions and potions can level the playing field? (I don&#039;t bother with all of this, because I&#039;m a naturally attractive woman. Maybe when I get older I&#039;ll feel I &quot;need&quot; those, though.)

- Men claim they want a woman with intelligence and similar values... but they leave those women for empty headed and corrupt women who are all dolled up and don&#039;t challenge the man&#039;s fragile little ego. Most men are threatened by intelligent and capable women, which is why so many women pretend to be stupid in order to win a mate. 

I hold out hope that I will find my frugal guy out there. While I am not looking for a man as frugal as Jacob, it would be great to find a partner on the same page. We could build a great life together... at least until he abandons me for a vapid bleached blonde who lives at the mall!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have thought a lot about this issue since discovering ERE. I have seen male commenters insist that all woman want men to spend lots of money on them, and so a frugal man is bound to die alone. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try not to write a novel here. What I see is the following:</p>
<p>- It is easy for a man to bed a woman who only asks that he buy xyz for her. It is harder to woo a woman who is looking for something other than xyz baubles/gazinguses/dinners. What does she want? Can it be provided easily or even at all? How long will it take before she is won over? Focusing on the spendthrift women is an easy route to sexual gratification. {Sorry to offend sensitive readers.}</p>
<p>- It is in a woman&#8217;s best interest to ensure a man is truly committed to her before she commits to him. Men who TALK a good game but don&#8217;t take concrete action end up leaving a woman in the lurch. Putting his money where his mouth is, so to speak, helps a woman to weed out men who have no intention of sticking around and being committed partners. </p>
<p>- Men are easily fooled by artifice. I see women who are facially unfortunate (euphemism for ugly as homemade sin) but are made up with lots of makeup and fancy clothes&#8230; and they trick men into believing they are actually attractive. Men are easily won over by a push up bra, Botox and bleached hair, even on a woman who would otherwise only turn heads in disgust. That&#8217;s why women spend money on those trappings! Why lose out in the competition for a mate when buying lotions and potions can level the playing field? (I don&#8217;t bother with all of this, because I&#8217;m a naturally attractive woman. Maybe when I get older I&#8217;ll feel I &#8220;need&#8221; those, though.)</p>
<p>- Men claim they want a woman with intelligence and similar values&#8230; but they leave those women for empty headed and corrupt women who are all dolled up and don&#8217;t challenge the man&#8217;s fragile little ego. Most men are threatened by intelligent and capable women, which is why so many women pretend to be stupid in order to win a mate. </p>
<p>I hold out hope that I will find my frugal guy out there. While I am not looking for a man as frugal as Jacob, it would be great to find a partner on the same page. We could build a great life together&#8230; at least until he abandons me for a vapid bleached blonde who lives at the mall!</p>
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		<title>By: Carol@inthetrenches</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol@inthetrenches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not too long ago I read that many women now think of a professional manicure as something that would go on the &quot;needs&quot; list.  I was shocked for this is something new to this generation. In the past if one wanted a manicure they would do it themselves but more often they were not even desirable for they have the effect of incapacitating the hands for work.  I like to garden, clean, and work with my hands so would not want an extra 1/2 inch of nails in the way of doing so.  The discussion about signalling was extremely interesting as it relates to finances and life and I agree that vga&#039;s comments were &quot;wow&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not too long ago I read that many women now think of a professional manicure as something that would go on the &#8220;needs&#8221; list.  I was shocked for this is something new to this generation. In the past if one wanted a manicure they would do it themselves but more often they were not even desirable for they have the effect of incapacitating the hands for work.  I like to garden, clean, and work with my hands so would not want an extra 1/2 inch of nails in the way of doing so.  The discussion about signalling was extremely interesting as it relates to finances and life and I agree that vga&#8217;s comments were &#8220;wow&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 04:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GC   I&#039;ve also found that I intimidate most men. Bring military, trained in self defense and earning more than those I dated. A couple of dates told me I made them feel like the &quot;girl&quot; on dates. Women just as men have trouble finding a partner, much less a frugal partner. There aren&#039;t that many frugal single people. Women should pay on dates too, however with me it was a three date rule. After that if they stuck around to me they were &quot;worth&quot; the investment :) 
I do wear make up sometimes and I dress very well and keep some current fashions. I do get to go to the movies often, (I get deep discounts) ad cooking at home with friends and their kids over is just so much nicer than driving somewhere and worrying about what we are eating and how we are getting home if someone is drinking. My neighbors are awesome and impromptu BBQs are a norm around here. 
Finding a mate like me is hard, as I&#039;m an adventurous person, a risk taker and Travel often. I&#039;m into the outdoors and the sea world, fishing is always nice but most people are caught up in their 9 to 5 jobs and don&#039;t hav much quality time. 
I hardly see any adults at my local library except the staff and most of the time they are chatting on FB. 
Bring frugal is a virtue not many people have. Society still hasn&#039;t caught up yet with the role reversals, such as stay at home dads. Smh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GC   I&#8217;ve also found that I intimidate most men. Bring military, trained in self defense and earning more than those I dated. A couple of dates told me I made them feel like the &#8220;girl&#8221; on dates. Women just as men have trouble finding a partner, much less a frugal partner. There aren&#8217;t that many frugal single people. Women should pay on dates too, however with me it was a three date rule. After that if they stuck around to me they were &#8220;worth&#8221; the investment <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I do wear make up sometimes and I dress very well and keep some current fashions. I do get to go to the movies often, (I get deep discounts) ad cooking at home with friends and their kids over is just so much nicer than driving somewhere and worrying about what we are eating and how we are getting home if someone is drinking. My neighbors are awesome and impromptu BBQs are a norm around here.<br />
Finding a mate like me is hard, as I&#8217;m an adventurous person, a risk taker and Travel often. I&#8217;m into the outdoors and the sea world, fishing is always nice but most people are caught up in their 9 to 5 jobs and don&#8217;t hav much quality time.<br />
I hardly see any adults at my local library except the staff and most of the time they are chatting on FB.<br />
Bring frugal is a virtue not many people have. Society still hasn&#8217;t caught up yet with the role reversals, such as stay at home dads. Smh.</p>
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		<title>By: Save money: change your definition of attractive. &#171; Simple Life in France</title>
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		<dc:creator>Save money: change your definition of attractive. &#171; Simple Life in France</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] had this topic on my mind for sometime and planned a post for next week, but this article by Jacob at ERE and the following discussion inspired me to push up my &#8216;deadline.&#8217;  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] had this topic on my mind for sometime and planned a post for next week, but this article by Jacob at ERE and the following discussion inspired me to push up my &#8216;deadline.&#8217;  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GC - you definitely dated some weird men if that was their reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GC &#8211; you definitely dated some weird men if that was their reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: GC</title>
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		<dc:creator>GC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a married lady now but when I was dating, I found that offering (sometimes insisting) to pay for things and/or giving gifts often scared men badly and made them regard me as a threat to their self esteem. 

Maybe I should have looked to date men who who were more interested in equal sharing of the costs of going out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a married lady now but when I was dating, I found that offering (sometimes insisting) to pay for things and/or giving gifts often scared men badly and made them regard me as a threat to their self esteem. </p>
<p>Maybe I should have looked to date men who who were more interested in equal sharing of the costs of going out.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t a gender issue at all.  The real issue is basically the number of frugal people.  There aren&#039;t many.  I would bet frugal women struggle to find frugal men just as much.

It would also classify this as a city vs. small town issue in the US.  I grew up in a small town where frugality is a little more common.  I now live in DC, where frugality is uncommon. The difference isn&#039;t enormous, but it is there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t a gender issue at all.  The real issue is basically the number of frugal people.  There aren&#8217;t many.  I would bet frugal women struggle to find frugal men just as much.</p>
<p>It would also classify this as a city vs. small town issue in the US.  I grew up in a small town where frugality is a little more common.  I now live in DC, where frugality is uncommon. The difference isn&#8217;t enormous, but it is there.</p>
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		<title>By: frugalscholar</title>
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		<dc:creator>frugalscholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luckily, pathologically frugal me found my frugal spouse in 1977 and we&#039;ve been frugal ever since. Both need to be somewhat unconventional. My DH said that he liked me because I didn&#039;t expect him to take care of me! And I liked him because he was/is smart and encouraged my frugal ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luckily, pathologically frugal me found my frugal spouse in 1977 and we&#8217;ve been frugal ever since. Both need to be somewhat unconventional. My DH said that he liked me because I didn&#8217;t expect him to take care of me! And I liked him because he was/is smart and encouraged my frugal ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was gonna comment about men not finding frugal women, but the very first comment by Simple in France said everything I was thinking of.  Men don&#039;t really like low-maintenance women b/c they can&#039;t show them off to their friends as if she&#039;s a trophy, not a person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was gonna comment about men not finding frugal women, but the very first comment by Simple in France said everything I was thinking of.  Men don&#8217;t really like low-maintenance women b/c they can&#8217;t show them off to their friends as if she&#8217;s a trophy, not a person.</p>
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		<title>By: MossySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>MossySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruth, great link. I love reading about these subjects. Obviously, spending is not the only form of signalling -- I should have made that clear. I was just pointing out that it is part of our evolutionary heritage and nobody should be shocked if some (many?) number of people look for them. Maybe not the only signal or otherwise, there would be a lot more cash for sex/babies transactions going on. Instead, you start with the spending signal to see if you have the means to support a family, then the fidelity signal to see if you won&#039;t be out fathering kids with other females, then the kindness/moral signal to see if you will be a good father. The spending signal is probably easiest to detect and hence often is the test that disqualifies males leading to the general feeling that women are just looking for a sugar daddy. (Or the women don&#039;t know when the signal has been answered and keep asking.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruth, great link. I love reading about these subjects. Obviously, spending is not the only form of signalling &#8212; I should have made that clear. I was just pointing out that it is part of our evolutionary heritage and nobody should be shocked if some (many?) number of people look for them. Maybe not the only signal or otherwise, there would be a lot more cash for sex/babies transactions going on. Instead, you start with the spending signal to see if you have the means to support a family, then the fidelity signal to see if you won&#8217;t be out fathering kids with other females, then the kindness/moral signal to see if you will be a good father. The spending signal is probably easiest to detect and hence often is the test that disqualifies males leading to the general feeling that women are just looking for a sugar daddy. (Or the women don&#8217;t know when the signal has been answered and keep asking.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I can gather, currently roughly 2/3 of married women in the US work outside of the home, that leaves a minimum of 1 out of 3 married men to make comments about how they would be able to save more if single.

Naturally, if your spouse earns significantly less than you, or spends significantly more than you, you can also come to the conclusion that one can save more by being single. I don&#039;t have any clever statistics on what percentage of people fit either of these two criteria, but to a rough approximation I&#039;ll guess that at least 1/2 of married men will conclude that they could save more money by being single. They may not be correct in this conclusion, but perhaps this is partially why the comment comes up with frequency.

Another consideration is that most people experience consumerism first, and then switch to being a saver-- something realized by this blog that suggests to readers that they consider spending less and saving more. Some responders are saying, &quot;I&#039;m open to make this change, but my spouse isn&#039;t&quot;, thus concluding that one can more easily switch to becoming a saver by being single. 

For me, I spent a lot more money when single-- some of it was spent to impress women, or go on fancy dates, but I also traveled a lot more, for a myriad of easily suspected reasons. In fact, one reason I got my finances in order, was because I knew I didn&#039;t want to take out a loan to buy an engagement ring-- this resulted in budgeting, which resulted in extreme budgeting, and so on.... 

In theory, I too could save a lot more money if single, because I earn about 5x what my wife does. Companionship has a value though, and for me it&#039;s worth whatever it&#039;s costing me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I can gather, currently roughly 2/3 of married women in the US work outside of the home, that leaves a minimum of 1 out of 3 married men to make comments about how they would be able to save more if single.</p>
<p>Naturally, if your spouse earns significantly less than you, or spends significantly more than you, you can also come to the conclusion that one can save more by being single. I don&#8217;t have any clever statistics on what percentage of people fit either of these two criteria, but to a rough approximation I&#8217;ll guess that at least 1/2 of married men will conclude that they could save more money by being single. They may not be correct in this conclusion, but perhaps this is partially why the comment comes up with frequency.</p>
<p>Another consideration is that most people experience consumerism first, and then switch to being a saver&#8211; something realized by this blog that suggests to readers that they consider spending less and saving more. Some responders are saying, &#8220;I&#8217;m open to make this change, but my spouse isn&#8217;t&#8221;, thus concluding that one can more easily switch to becoming a saver by being single. </p>
<p>For me, I spent a lot more money when single&#8211; some of it was spent to impress women, or go on fancy dates, but I also traveled a lot more, for a myriad of easily suspected reasons. In fact, one reason I got my finances in order, was because I knew I didn&#8217;t want to take out a loan to buy an engagement ring&#8211; this resulted in budgeting, which resulted in extreme budgeting, and so on&#8230;. </p>
<p>In theory, I too could save a lot more money if single, because I earn about 5x what my wife does. Companionship has a value though, and for me it&#8217;s worth whatever it&#8217;s costing me.</p>
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		<title>By: hickchick</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Jacob. Very thought provoking.

Those of you looking for frugal chicks should probably check out your local organizations promoting women in science and math.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Jacob. Very thought provoking.</p>
<p>Those of you looking for frugal chicks should probably check out your local organizations promoting women in science and math.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coincidentally, I am reading an article about evolutionary sexual selection and signaling, and there are more powerful signals than spending: kindness, humor, conscientiousness, and general ethics.  Here&#039;s the article: http://www.unm.edu/~gfmiller/new_papers/miller%202007%20moralvirtues.pdf

I agree that men who think women want expensive things are interested in the wrong women.  I also agree that you don&#039;t need much money to look attractive or to do interesting things. Going to movies and restaurants are two of the most boring things on Earth.  Museums, parks, and other culture are usually cheaper or free and more interesting, as are book clubs, social action groups, volunteer organizations. . . . And you&#039;re more likely to meet someone you have something in common with there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coincidentally, I am reading an article about evolutionary sexual selection and signaling, and there are more powerful signals than spending: kindness, humor, conscientiousness, and general ethics.  Here&#8217;s the article: <a href="http://www.unm.edu/~gfmiller/new_papers/miller%202007%20moralvirtues.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.unm.edu/~gfmiller/new_papers/miller%202007%20moralvirtues.pdf</a></p>
<p>I agree that men who think women want expensive things are interested in the wrong women.  I also agree that you don&#8217;t need much money to look attractive or to do interesting things. Going to movies and restaurants are two of the most boring things on Earth.  Museums, parks, and other culture are usually cheaper or free and more interesting, as are book clubs, social action groups, volunteer organizations. . . . And you&#8217;re more likely to meet someone you have something in common with there.</p>
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		<title>By: AlexK</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still would like to meet a frugal chick.  I do know one but she may play for the other team as that&#039;s the only reasonable explanation for her to be able to resist my charm.

Gia,
How would you like to go on a date to the library with me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still would like to meet a frugal chick.  I do know one but she may play for the other team as that&#8217;s the only reasonable explanation for her to be able to resist my charm.</p>
<p>Gia,<br />
How would you like to go on a date to the library with me?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Meg you sound hot!  Your marriage sounds awesome and I can&#039;t wait to meet a girl like you.</description>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mneiae - There is a difference between civilization (a high degree of internal (political and economical, that is, the two social structures we accept) structure) and acting civilized, which is a prerequisite for civilization to survive e.g. being conscientious about interaction with its surroundings (the environment) and the future (the next generations). Our civilization does not act very civilized. For instance, we certainly do not consider the impact of our actions for the next seven generations and frequently we do not consider the impact of our actions beyond the tip of our nose.

@richinaz - Using staples to cook with will allow a greater deal of portion control. Of couse I remember buying 20lbs of potatoes as a single and that generally meant potatoes every other day until they ran out.

@pessimist - Maybe a joint family is not a great structure. The arrangement from my dorm days with 4 people sharing a kitchen or 18 people sharing kitchen and bathroom facilities allowed for personal orientations. One did not have to hang out, but I can definitely see that as a problem in a family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mneiae &#8211; There is a difference between civilization (a high degree of internal (political and economical, that is, the two social structures we accept) structure) and acting civilized, which is a prerequisite for civilization to survive e.g. being conscientious about interaction with its surroundings (the environment) and the future (the next generations). Our civilization does not act very civilized. For instance, we certainly do not consider the impact of our actions for the next seven generations and frequently we do not consider the impact of our actions beyond the tip of our nose.</p>
<p>@richinaz &#8211; Using staples to cook with will allow a greater deal of portion control. Of couse I remember buying 20lbs of potatoes as a single and that generally meant potatoes every other day until they ran out.</p>
<p>@pessimist &#8211; Maybe a joint family is not a great structure. The arrangement from my dorm days with 4 people sharing a kitchen or 18 people sharing kitchen and bathroom facilities allowed for personal orientations. One did not have to hang out, but I can definitely see that as a problem in a family.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this another marketing test run for your frugal dating equivalent of match.com? ;)

One thing that drew me to my wife was that she was more frugal than I. She spent her money purposefully, not just to pass the time (shopping as entertainment). This was welcome after divorcing my ex- that was nearly the complete opposite. 

@vga - I think you&#039;re confusing frugality with being cheap.</description>
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<p>One thing that drew me to my wife was that she was more frugal than I. She spent her money purposefully, not just to pass the time (shopping as entertainment). This was welcome after divorcing my ex- that was nearly the complete opposite. </p>
<p>@vga &#8211; I think you&#8217;re confusing frugality with being cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: Gia</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@vga

Wow.  Where to begin?

In regards to #1 Clothes can be purchased on sale and an thrift stores.  If you buy quality items they last for a long time.  No one needs a gym membership to get in shape. Ever heard of P90X or kettlebells? There are plenty of great exercise programs that get the job done without a gym and a small investment.  Personally, I never wear makeup and have no problem attracting the opposite sex.

In regards to #2 For a lot of homebodies they don&#039;t avoid bars, movies or restaurants just because they cost money.  Movies can be seen in the comfort of your own home.  Restuarant quality food can be eaten at home.  Bars are unappealing on many levels.

I can&#039;t speak for other homebodies, but part of the reason I am one is because I think most other people are boring.  Maybe they think I&#039;m boring too so I guess it evens out.  I like to discuss and learn about various topics.  I&#039;m not really into having experiences.  I&#039;m most passionate about fitness and health, but I haven&#039;t set foot in a gym for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@vga</p>
<p>Wow.  Where to begin?</p>
<p>In regards to #1 Clothes can be purchased on sale and an thrift stores.  If you buy quality items they last for a long time.  No one needs a gym membership to get in shape. Ever heard of P90X or kettlebells? There are plenty of great exercise programs that get the job done without a gym and a small investment.  Personally, I never wear makeup and have no problem attracting the opposite sex.</p>
<p>In regards to #2 For a lot of homebodies they don&#8217;t avoid bars, movies or restaurants just because they cost money.  Movies can be seen in the comfort of your own home.  Restuarant quality food can be eaten at home.  Bars are unappealing on many levels.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t speak for other homebodies, but part of the reason I am one is because I think most other people are boring.  Maybe they think I&#8217;m boring too so I guess it evens out.  I like to discuss and learn about various topics.  I&#8217;m not really into having experiences.  I&#8217;m most passionate about fitness and health, but I haven&#8217;t set foot in a gym for years.</p>
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