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		<title>By: dmitry</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob, I also have to thank you for the link to the wonderful article on Leadership and Solitude. I enjoyed it greatly.

And as always, thanks for your blog, of course. It continues to reiterate much needed message and helps keep the proper perspective on the important subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob, I also have to thank you for the link to the wonderful article on Leadership and Solitude. I enjoyed it greatly.</p>
<p>And as always, thanks for your blog, of course. It continues to reiterate much needed message and helps keep the proper perspective on the important subject.</p>
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		<title>By: basil</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is the fear of being completely responsible for your life with complete freedom. This happens when prisoners get released from prison after a long time. They don&#039;t know how to conduct themselves after being in a structured environment without having to make many decisions. They end up committing some crime to get back to prison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is the fear of being completely responsible for your life with complete freedom. This happens when prisoners get released from prison after a long time. They don&#8217;t know how to conduct themselves after being in a structured environment without having to make many decisions. They end up committing some crime to get back to prison.</p>
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		<title>By: Clyde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob, sorry but I posted this by mistake on another post.
I read this post whilst listening to a radio story about the drought in Somalia. 
Most Somalians have no &#039;job&#039; and are, therefore, free. However, most would feel far from free at present.
A lack of social structures enabling them to amass a small fortune, the like of which you amassed, prevents them from becoming truly free. 
Indeed, job or otherwise, 99% of the world is not free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob, sorry but I posted this by mistake on another post.<br />
I read this post whilst listening to a radio story about the drought in Somalia.<br />
Most Somalians have no &#8216;job&#8217; and are, therefore, free. However, most would feel far from free at present.<br />
A lack of social structures enabling them to amass a small fortune, the like of which you amassed, prevents them from becoming truly free.<br />
Indeed, job or otherwise, 99% of the world is not free.</p>
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		<title>By: bethers</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prison vs Work

http://pages.infinit.net/garrick/jokes/prisonwork.html</description>
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		<title>By: The voluntarily dispossessed &#171; thoughts and pennings</title>
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		<dc:creator>The voluntarily dispossessed &#171; thoughts and pennings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wake Up Call &#8211; Is Fear Standing In My Way &#171; Simple Living in Suffolk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wake Up Call &#8211; Is Fear Standing In My Way &#171; Simple Living in Suffolk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] did that for me today, introducing me to the quote above and to Early Retirement Extreme&#8217;s The Voluntarily Dispossessed. Sometimes it&#8217;s good to come up for air.        [...]</description>
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		<title>By: nathan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you need to rewrite that first paragraph</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, thanks for the link to my article - clearly, the dust has not settled from that one. 

Second, thanks for the article on solitude and leadership. It&#039;s the single best thing I&#039;ve read in weeks.

Third, thanks for continuing to share your vision in such an candid manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, thanks for the link to my article &#8211; clearly, the dust has not settled from that one. </p>
<p>Second, thanks for the article on solitude and leadership. It&#8217;s the single best thing I&#8217;ve read in weeks.</p>
<p>Third, thanks for continuing to share your vision in such an candid manner.</p>
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		<title>By: north9nj</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;have you considered any real freedoms? freedoms from the opinion of others. even the opinions of yourself.&quot; col. kurtz from apocalypse now. it&#039;s cliche to quote movies but i have this one tattooed to my chest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;have you considered any real freedoms? freedoms from the opinion of others. even the opinions of yourself.&#8221; col. kurtz from apocalypse now. it&#8217;s cliche to quote movies but i have this one tattooed to my chest.</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 00:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SO many movie references!

We all live in &quot;The Matrix&quot;, it is just realizing that you can use it for your own ideals and dreams. We all participate in The Matrix daily - drink a soda, grind store bought coffee, drive a car you did not build...etc. The level of involvement determines your dependency on the continual operation and propagation of The Matrix. 

Some people are blessed to operate outside The Matrix - until they learn of it. Kids in rural China, the Aborigines, Eskimo&#039;s, native americans in the past, etc etc etc. 

There is no stopping the Matrix, only lessening it&#039;s influence on you and increasing your influence on it. Most people tend to like being plugged into The Matrix.

As an aside from the what if everyone did it - we would develop right back to where ancient Greece was, where we have thinkers, artisans, etc. Eventually Sparta grows too - history repeats itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SO many movie references!</p>
<p>We all live in &#8220;The Matrix&#8221;, it is just realizing that you can use it for your own ideals and dreams. We all participate in The Matrix daily &#8211; drink a soda, grind store bought coffee, drive a car you did not build&#8230;etc. The level of involvement determines your dependency on the continual operation and propagation of The Matrix. </p>
<p>Some people are blessed to operate outside The Matrix &#8211; until they learn of it. Kids in rural China, the Aborigines, Eskimo&#8217;s, native americans in the past, etc etc etc. </p>
<p>There is no stopping the Matrix, only lessening it&#8217;s influence on you and increasing your influence on it. Most people tend to like being plugged into The Matrix.</p>
<p>As an aside from the what if everyone did it &#8211; we would develop right back to where ancient Greece was, where we have thinkers, artisans, etc. Eventually Sparta grows too &#8211; history repeats itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Maus</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob, I just want to say thanks for sharing the link to the Deresiewicz article on leadership.  That guy nailed it in my opinion.  I am a big practioner of the sort of productive solitude espoused in the article.

Meanwhile, keep on pusing people to realize that working to support consumerism, particularly if it is unconscioulsy adopted, is slavery.  Some might find that harsh.  Or the solutions that you propose to be too ascetic.  But your comparison to the Spartans is apt.  It would be far better to strive for arete (excellence) and techne (skill) than to be the sort of bland, soft bureaucrat decried by Deresiewicz, no matter how many comforts the marketplace offers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob, I just want to say thanks for sharing the link to the Deresiewicz article on leadership.  That guy nailed it in my opinion.  I am a big practioner of the sort of productive solitude espoused in the article.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, keep on pusing people to realize that working to support consumerism, particularly if it is unconscioulsy adopted, is slavery.  Some might find that harsh.  Or the solutions that you propose to be too ascetic.  But your comparison to the Spartans is apt.  It would be far better to strive for arete (excellence) and techne (skill) than to be the sort of bland, soft bureaucrat decried by Deresiewicz, no matter how many comforts the marketplace offers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@brauhster - Freedom is really a state of mind. I am mostly concerned with the loss of internal freedom---not just economically speaking---when choices are subconsciously eliminated. I am continuously questioning myself, whether I am making my own choices or whether I am being played. I once again find myself returning to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gervais principle&lt;/a&gt;. What I think is that the clueless are not free. The losers and the sociopaths are the free ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@brauhster &#8211; Freedom is really a state of mind. I am mostly concerned with the loss of internal freedom&#8212;not just economically speaking&#8212;when choices are subconsciously eliminated. I am continuously questioning myself, whether I am making my own choices or whether I am being played. I once again find myself returning to the <a href="http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/" rel="nofollow">Gervais principle</a>. What I think is that the clueless are not free. The losers and the sociopaths are the free ones.</p>
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		<title>By: brauhster</title>
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		<dc:creator>brauhster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob, would you consider some one who is retired, free if they are 69?  I am a full retirement age person &amp; not workaing for money.  These last 2 years have been great. I think of my self as a free person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob, would you consider some one who is retired, free if they are 69?  I am a full retirement age person &amp; not workaing for money.  These last 2 years have been great. I think of my self as a free person.</p>
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		<title>By: mdeal32</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And of course by vast majority I don&#039;t include your readers :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course by vast majority I don&#8217;t include your readers <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mdeal32</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutley agree with the post...but I don&#039;t feel that a vast of majority of people would agree...you see people don&#039;t want to think &quot;outside of the box&quot; 
They want to belive that they are in some sort of control over their life. This becomes a way of life so young that we don&#039;t question it. We start at say 3ish with preschool we have to wake up at a certain time, we have to be somewhere at a specfic time for a specific amount of time and we have to to specific tasks to make sure we are &quot;developing&quot; correctly and that is the staus quo for pretty much the rest of our life. We get an arbitrary demand from society to &quot;fit in&quot; to &quot;be one of the pack&quot; I see this with my chlildren they have to do what is expected, but who sets this expectation, a society that is obsessed with things like sweet sixteen and cribs and a society that is obsessed with fast (disgusting) food and bad books like Twilight  As a society we have been told that we should accept our &quot;place in the middle class&quot; to me it is a type of serfdom..we work on the wealthy landowners manors and we are allowed a small stipend at the end of the month and if we are lucky we may get our own little plot of land in the later part of our life, the problem is noone has ever had happiness or life dropped in thier lap, they created it.......
Happiness is not something ready made. It comes from your own actions. 
~Dalai Lama</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutley agree with the post&#8230;but I don&#8217;t feel that a vast of majority of people would agree&#8230;you see people don&#8217;t want to think &#8220;outside of the box&#8221;<br />
They want to belive that they are in some sort of control over their life. This becomes a way of life so young that we don&#8217;t question it. We start at say 3ish with preschool we have to wake up at a certain time, we have to be somewhere at a specfic time for a specific amount of time and we have to to specific tasks to make sure we are &#8220;developing&#8221; correctly and that is the staus quo for pretty much the rest of our life. We get an arbitrary demand from society to &#8220;fit in&#8221; to &#8220;be one of the pack&#8221; I see this with my chlildren they have to do what is expected, but who sets this expectation, a society that is obsessed with things like sweet sixteen and cribs and a society that is obsessed with fast (disgusting) food and bad books like Twilight  As a society we have been told that we should accept our &#8220;place in the middle class&#8221; to me it is a type of serfdom..we work on the wealthy landowners manors and we are allowed a small stipend at the end of the month and if we are lucky we may get our own little plot of land in the later part of our life, the problem is noone has ever had happiness or life dropped in thier lap, they created it&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
Happiness is not something ready made. It comes from your own actions.<br />
~Dalai Lama</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why your blog and book are important. To at least show people there is a choice, whether they take the red or blue pill is their problem, but at least they know there are 2 to choose from.

I was one of the college students that got sucked in to the graduate, get married, buy a house cycle without really knowing or understanding what I signed up for long-term. (I guess I did know, maybe what I mean is that I wasn&#039;t aware there was an alternative.) By now I could have had that first house paid off and who knows what else. It is frustrating, but at least I&#039;m in control of my destiny now and understand where my time and money is going. Realizing that by 35 is still better than 90% of people I bet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why your blog and book are important. To at least show people there is a choice, whether they take the red or blue pill is their problem, but at least they know there are 2 to choose from.</p>
<p>I was one of the college students that got sucked in to the graduate, get married, buy a house cycle without really knowing or understanding what I signed up for long-term. (I guess I did know, maybe what I mean is that I wasn&#8217;t aware there was an alternative.) By now I could have had that first house paid off and who knows what else. It is frustrating, but at least I&#8217;m in control of my destiny now and understand where my time and money is going. Realizing that by 35 is still better than 90% of people I bet.</p>
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		<title>By: Sim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;People want to live a less materialistic life, but the children must still live a materialistic life because that’s what the norm is. I am undecided on that question: Are parents raising their kids in their own image or are they trying to raise them to fit into society?&quot;

The pressure of society and marketing is tremendous.  Even with parents as role models, young minds are extremely susceptible to peer influence and marketing.  When they are young it is easy enough to opt out of the material bandwagon, but as they grow older and earn their own income they make their own choices.  I think for many of us it took a bit of living before we were able to opt out of traditional spending/living habits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People want to live a less materialistic life, but the children must still live a materialistic life because that’s what the norm is. I am undecided on that question: Are parents raising their kids in their own image or are they trying to raise them to fit into society?&#8221;</p>
<p>The pressure of society and marketing is tremendous.  Even with parents as role models, young minds are extremely susceptible to peer influence and marketing.  When they are young it is easy enough to opt out of the material bandwagon, but as they grow older and earn their own income they make their own choices.  I think for many of us it took a bit of living before we were able to opt out of traditional spending/living habits.</p>
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		<title>By: Aury (Thunderdrake)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aury (Thunderdrake)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We truly are an economically enslaved people. There is no such thing as freedom in a monetary system. A human is only as free as their purchasing power. And because monetary wealth is inherently scarce, the majority of the people will lose.

It&#039;s kind of like tic tac toe. The only way to win is not to play.

Which is essentially the foundation of my own wealth generation. I want passive cash flow to pay for my expenses. And that&#039;s pretty much it. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We truly are an economically enslaved people. There is no such thing as freedom in a monetary system. A human is only as free as their purchasing power. And because monetary wealth is inherently scarce, the majority of the people will lose.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of like tic tac toe. The only way to win is not to play.</p>
<p>Which is essentially the foundation of my own wealth generation. I want passive cash flow to pay for my expenses. And that&#8217;s pretty much it. <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: deegee</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever since I retired in late 2008 at age 45, I have freedom, security, and comfort.  In the 7 years prior to that, I was working part-time so those around me were used to my similar lifestyle, one which has not greatly changed.  I just needed to get rid of 100% of my lousy and sickening commute, even if it were only 2 days a week.

I hang with a mostly older crowd, many of whom are already retired, so I now fit in with them more than I did before.  Those my age and others still in the working world may or may not be able to relate to my being retired.  What they do like is finding it easier to schedule things with me, especially midweek now that every evening seems like a Saturday! :)

I do admit, however, that I find it tougher to relate to THEM, those people in the full-time working world.  Office politics, boss-employee relations, commutes, coworkers.....none of that interests me whole lot any more, not that I mind it LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever since I retired in late 2008 at age 45, I have freedom, security, and comfort.  In the 7 years prior to that, I was working part-time so those around me were used to my similar lifestyle, one which has not greatly changed.  I just needed to get rid of 100% of my lousy and sickening commute, even if it were only 2 days a week.</p>
<p>I hang with a mostly older crowd, many of whom are already retired, so I now fit in with them more than I did before.  Those my age and others still in the working world may or may not be able to relate to my being retired.  What they do like is finding it easier to schedule things with me, especially midweek now that every evening seems like a Saturday! <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I do admit, however, that I find it tougher to relate to THEM, those people in the full-time working world.  Office politics, boss-employee relations, commutes, coworkers&#8230;..none of that interests me whole lot any more, not that I mind it LOL!</p>
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