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	<title>Comments on: What people ought to know about the different kinds of personal finance blogs</title>
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		<title>By: Carol@inthetrenches</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol@inthetrenches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to add one more.  I have been home sick for the last couple of days.  Days of medicine and being in my chair to recover has allowed time to catch up on the financial blogs.  I am amazed how many coupon/free deal blogs there are.  And what store has what price.  Since my way of doing things tends to keep me OUT of stores they are not something I would follow but they do seem very popular.  I guess I would refer to them as Discount Consumerism blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to add one more.  I have been home sick for the last couple of days.  Days of medicine and being in my chair to recover has allowed time to catch up on the financial blogs.  I am amazed how many coupon/free deal blogs there are.  And what store has what price.  Since my way of doing things tends to keep me OUT of stores they are not something I would follow but they do seem very popular.  I guess I would refer to them as Discount Consumerism blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: GE Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>GE Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 00:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Extremist here. I&#039;m saving over 80% of my income and hope to be able to retire within two years. I don&#039;t know where I fit on your personal finance blog graph. By title, my blog focuses on just graduated... yet I&#039;ve often struggled with that b/c very few twenty-somethings are thinking about early retirement and its a passion of mine. You&#039;re not the only one who struggles with the name of their blog, Jacob. At least you&#039;re in the ballpark.

My philosophy comes down to this: you only live once and I can&#039;t imagine ever laying my deathbed wishing I had worked more hours or climbed higher on the company ladder. I can imagine wishing I had spent more time with family, friends, and doing the things I loved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extremist here. I&#8217;m saving over 80% of my income and hope to be able to retire within two years. I don&#8217;t know where I fit on your personal finance blog graph. By title, my blog focuses on just graduated&#8230; yet I&#8217;ve often struggled with that b/c very few twenty-somethings are thinking about early retirement and its a passion of mine. You&#8217;re not the only one who struggles with the name of their blog, Jacob. At least you&#8217;re in the ballpark.</p>
<p>My philosophy comes down to this: you only live once and I can&#8217;t imagine ever laying my deathbed wishing I had worked more hours or climbed higher on the company ladder. I can imagine wishing I had spent more time with family, friends, and doing the things I loved.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 22:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@blah - I can&#039;t comment of statistical data or official numbers. However, pf bloggers seem to have a WAY better understanding of personal finance than the average person. I used to think that having saved 100k before age 30 (before most people have serious income) was unique/remarkable, but for many pf bloggers this is more the rule than the exception. 

PS: This was my understanding four years ago when there was still only about 100-200 pf blogs. Now there&#039;s close to a thousand, so this &#039;rule&#039; may no longer hold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@blah &#8211; I can&#8217;t comment of statistical data or official numbers. However, pf bloggers seem to have a WAY better understanding of personal finance than the average person. I used to think that having saved 100k before age 30 (before most people have serious income) was unique/remarkable, but for many pf bloggers this is more the rule than the exception. </p>
<p>PS: This was my understanding four years ago when there was still only about 100-200 pf blogs. Now there&#8217;s close to a thousand, so this &#8216;rule&#8217; may no longer hold.</p>
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		<title>By: blah</title>
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		<dc:creator>blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 21:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious how much of the overall US population constitutes the middle class.  I ask this because this article did a good job of categorizing the classes of PF blogs targeting the middle class, but I wonder, how many people are considered poor and so just live paycheck to paycheck and how many people are so rich that money is just numbers and games.  I know that the rich are in the minority, but i wonder how many middle class there are that fit the typical description here vs how many poor who life like the college student their whole life.  I know around the world answers would vary widely, but what about here?  Is there a reliable consistent source for that?  I am confused, because whenever I academically read statistics put out by the census bureau or other government agencies, it appears to me that the number of poor listed is much less than what I experiencially see around me in the world as I go about my daily life.  I wonder if it is because of the places I have traveled or where I have lived, but 
I have done a ton of travelling in my life and have seen more of it in the places I have gone than the statistics seem to indicate.
The reason I point this out is because I wonder how typical the typical PF blog is, vs is it just that those type of people read PF blogs, ie, people who are way thrifty either by choice or by circumstance, would not tend to read the average PF blog to start with either because it is unenlightened or well, because it is totally in a different financial world to theirs depending on which group of frugal you are talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious how much of the overall US population constitutes the middle class.  I ask this because this article did a good job of categorizing the classes of PF blogs targeting the middle class, but I wonder, how many people are considered poor and so just live paycheck to paycheck and how many people are so rich that money is just numbers and games.  I know that the rich are in the minority, but i wonder how many middle class there are that fit the typical description here vs how many poor who life like the college student their whole life.  I know around the world answers would vary widely, but what about here?  Is there a reliable consistent source for that?  I am confused, because whenever I academically read statistics put out by the census bureau or other government agencies, it appears to me that the number of poor listed is much less than what I experiencially see around me in the world as I go about my daily life.  I wonder if it is because of the places I have traveled or where I have lived, but<br />
I have done a ton of travelling in my life and have seen more of it in the places I have gone than the statistics seem to indicate.<br />
The reason I point this out is because I wonder how typical the typical PF blog is, vs is it just that those type of people read PF blogs, ie, people who are way thrifty either by choice or by circumstance, would not tend to read the average PF blog to start with either because it is unenlightened or well, because it is totally in a different financial world to theirs depending on which group of frugal you are talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol@inthetrenches</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol@inthetrenches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice.  The aspect I have encountered much in the rural area is seasonal work whether it be farming, Alaska fishing, or in the forest.  Work your butt off for a few months and take a season off.  Small retirements throughout one&#039;s lifetime.  I have done this and like it. The time off and fun gives rejuvenation to go at it hard again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice.  The aspect I have encountered much in the rural area is seasonal work whether it be farming, Alaska fishing, or in the forest.  Work your butt off for a few months and take a season off.  Small retirements throughout one&#8217;s lifetime.  I have done this and like it. The time off and fun gives rejuvenation to go at it hard again.</p>
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		<title>By: Concojones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concojones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to add my savings rate is 50% (of net income). Basically, for every dollar you spend, you put one aside. This seems like a good balance to me: frugal but not obsessive (obsessive in the sense that I wan&#039;t to delude myself into thinking life will be better after retirement).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to add my savings rate is 50% (of net income). Basically, for every dollar you spend, you put one aside. This seems like a good balance to me: frugal but not obsessive (obsessive in the sense that I wan&#8217;t to delude myself into thinking life will be better after retirement).</p>
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		<title>By: Concojones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concojones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I discovered the notion of ER a year or 3 ago, shortly after graduation. Being European (ER is an American thing IMO), the idea was totally new to me but very exciting. My first goal was like 3-4 million - say, &quot;Adfecto&quot; style retirement. Just like Steve I&#039;ve come to change my mind and I credit this blog for that. These days I&#039;m thinking a few 100k (as far as I&#039;m concerned) to 1M (for a future family). I&#039;m now 28 and I hope to be there by 40.

That said, I hope I&#039;ll love what I do so much that I won&#039;t want to retire at 40, but it&#039;s good to have a choice. I do know I&#039;ll want to spend time with my future kids (more than my own dad did).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I discovered the notion of ER a year or 3 ago, shortly after graduation. Being European (ER is an American thing IMO), the idea was totally new to me but very exciting. My first goal was like 3-4 million &#8211; say, &#8220;Adfecto&#8221; style retirement. Just like Steve I&#8217;ve come to change my mind and I credit this blog for that. These days I&#8217;m thinking a few 100k (as far as I&#8217;m concerned) to 1M (for a future family). I&#8217;m now 28 and I hope to be there by 40.</p>
<p>That said, I hope I&#8217;ll love what I do so much that I won&#8217;t want to retire at 40, but it&#8217;s good to have a choice. I do know I&#8217;ll want to spend time with my future kids (more than my own dad did).</p>
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		<title>By: The Career Arc &#8211; Progressing Through A Middle Class Career &#171; Simple Living in Suffolk</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Career Arc &#8211; Progressing Through A Middle Class Career &#171; Simple Living in Suffolk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 23:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;d buy him a beer or two. I got the idea for this post from Early Retirement Extreme&#8217;s What You Need To Know About The Different Kinds of PF Blogs and the graphical presentation. Since I would probably fall into the Career Track classification, I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;d buy him a beer or two. I got the idea for this post from Early Retirement Extreme&#8217;s What You Need To Know About The Different Kinds of PF Blogs and the graphical presentation. Since I would probably fall into the Career Track classification, I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyEnergy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoneyEnergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 07:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>really cool graphs, there!:)  I&#039;m wondering where my blog would fall on that.  I&#039;m definitely not a &quot;getting out of debt&quot; blog, and while I&#039;ve already graduated my Bachelor&#039;s I&#039;m doing grad work, so I&#039;m somewhere between the college student and the &quot;career track&quot; blogs, I guess.   My blog is 40% pf, 25% investment, 20% personal development...  I&#039;ve read some of your posts before, but have just recently come back to your site again.  Subscribed.  I&#039;ll definitely be reading more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really cool graphs, there!:)  I&#8217;m wondering where my blog would fall on that.  I&#8217;m definitely not a &#8220;getting out of debt&#8221; blog, and while I&#8217;ve already graduated my Bachelor&#8217;s I&#8217;m doing grad work, so I&#8217;m somewhere between the college student and the &#8220;career track&#8221; blogs, I guess.   My blog is 40% pf, 25% investment, 20% personal development&#8230;  I&#8217;ve read some of your posts before, but have just recently come back to your site again.  Subscribed.  I&#8217;ll definitely be reading more!</p>
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		<title>By: Dividend Growth Investor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dividend Growth Investor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post - I am definitely a niche investing blog that focuses on retirement planning or living off your income producing assets.
I do have a several decades before I retire however ( I&#039;m still in my 20&#039;s(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post &#8211; I am definitely a niche investing blog that focuses on retirement planning or living off your income producing assets.<br />
I do have a several decades before I retire however ( I&#8217;m still in my 20&#8242;s(</p>
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		<title>By: 2million</title>
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		<dc:creator>2million</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post -- I am falling somewhere around early retirement on the border with extreme.  If it was just me I would definitely fall into the extreme category, however my wife rounds me out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post &#8212; I am falling somewhere around early retirement on the border with extreme.  If it was just me I would definitely fall into the extreme category, however my wife rounds me out.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steve - Thank you for the encouragement :) I too would like to hear your story about how you achieved FI. Real life examples always make the dream seem that much more tangible!

It&#039;s funny, reading over my post I come off as obnoxiously idealistic! Haha. But my life has been anything but.. I grew up in the foster care system and went through a period of homelessness in my late teens after &quot;aging out&quot; with no financial or familial safety net. This was a period when I had a bit of a &quot;wake up call&quot; regarding the nature of money, employment, society, consumerism, financial literacy, financial independence, mortality, self-perception and how it all ties into determining the quality of our lives. In short, my unusual circumstances forced me into a position of taking a good hard look at my priorities and circumstance, and figure out what I truly valued in life.

I think the defining aspect of my personality is that I am simultaneously a romantic and a realist. I have a bit of an &quot;English major temperament&quot; ;) which explains my fanatic worship of Time as a means to simply contemplate and appreciate life. I am also an INTJ and have strong tendencies toward questioning herd mentality and being skeptical. This, coupled with a penchant for planning ahead, and facing up to economic reality, also makes me a realist.

I know that only time will tell if I indeed &quot;stuck to my guns&quot; but I truly believe that, on many levels, FI is not simply a means to an end but a worthy challenge... a lifestyle, in fact. It&#039;s sort of like an exclusive game, where entry is admitted to those who exhibit unusual levels of endurance, self-control, and patience. Part of the fun is testing out one&#039;s own willpower!

Anyway, I&#039;m glad I found my &quot;niche&quot; in the PF world :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve &#8211; Thank you for the encouragement <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I too would like to hear your story about how you achieved FI. Real life examples always make the dream seem that much more tangible!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny, reading over my post I come off as obnoxiously idealistic! Haha. But my life has been anything but.. I grew up in the foster care system and went through a period of homelessness in my late teens after &#8220;aging out&#8221; with no financial or familial safety net. This was a period when I had a bit of a &#8220;wake up call&#8221; regarding the nature of money, employment, society, consumerism, financial literacy, financial independence, mortality, self-perception and how it all ties into determining the quality of our lives. In short, my unusual circumstances forced me into a position of taking a good hard look at my priorities and circumstance, and figure out what I truly valued in life.</p>
<p>I think the defining aspect of my personality is that I am simultaneously a romantic and a realist. I have a bit of an &#8220;English major temperament&#8221; <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  which explains my fanatic worship of Time as a means to simply contemplate and appreciate life. I am also an INTJ and have strong tendencies toward questioning herd mentality and being skeptical. This, coupled with a penchant for planning ahead, and facing up to economic reality, also makes me a realist.</p>
<p>I know that only time will tell if I indeed &#8220;stuck to my guns&#8221; but I truly believe that, on many levels, FI is not simply a means to an end but a worthy challenge&#8230; a lifestyle, in fact. It&#8217;s sort of like an exclusive game, where entry is admitted to those who exhibit unusual levels of endurance, self-control, and patience. Part of the fun is testing out one&#8217;s own willpower!</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m glad I found my &#8220;niche&#8221; in the PF world <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steve - I&#039;m also interested. I find this anything but easy. I&#039;ve probably been too institutionalized. DW actually seems to be more accepting of my ER than I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve &#8211; I&#8217;m also interested. I find this anything but easy. I&#8217;ve probably been too institutionalized. DW actually seems to be more accepting of my ER than I am.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canada, it was an easy gradual change from about age 31-36.  Probably nothing that rates a guest post.</description>
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		<title>By: Thrifty Canadian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thrifty Canadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steve
Very interested in how you changed and how hard you think the change was. Stuff like convincing spouse is more difficult than changing life style I suppose. You want to share with us in a guest post, since you now “Sitting around with nothing to do &quot;?</description>
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Very interested in how you changed and how hard you think the change was. Stuff like convincing spouse is more difficult than changing life style I suppose. You want to share with us in a guest post, since you now “Sitting around with nothing to do &#8220;?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to chuckle (at myself).  I started out (around 23 or 24) with the same opinion as Adfecto.  I distinctly recall saying to myself and others:  &quot;I&#039;m the type of person who doesn&#039;t mind working, and can see myself working past 70.&quot;  But now (38) I have done what Hannah says she will do by her late 30s.  I think we have to imagine that a person (e.g. Adfecto) can and may *change* her/his mind.  I hope to see Hannah stick to her guns though, because what she proposes is both doable and admirable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to chuckle (at myself).  I started out (around 23 or 24) with the same opinion as Adfecto.  I distinctly recall saying to myself and others:  &#8220;I&#8217;m the type of person who doesn&#8217;t mind working, and can see myself working past 70.&#8221;  But now (38) I have done what Hannah says she will do by her late 30s.  I think we have to imagine that a person (e.g. Adfecto) can and may *change* her/his mind.  I hope to see Hannah stick to her guns though, because what she proposes is both doable and admirable.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adfecto
&quot;Sitting around with nothing to do is not for me.&quot;

This assumes that there is &quot;nothing to do&quot; when one is not at work performing their job. Which is a rather dire way of looking at leisure time! If anything, wouldn&#039;t you want to retire earlier on less, since even half of the projected 12-15 million should be sufficient to provide a very comfortable lifestyle? It would mean more years to enjoy &quot;doing your own thing.&quot;

As for me, I am currently 21 and starting out with nothing (zero inheritance, saved wealth, or financial/familial safety net). I plan on aggressively investing the bulk of my income, and retiring in my late 30s on approximately 500,000 in investments to support a very simple, frugal, minimalist lifestyle. I know, sacrilege! But what can I say: I&#039;m an extremist when it comes to my worship of my leisure time. I only have approximately 40-50 more years on earth after that, if I&#039;m lucky, and you know how life is... it&#039;s short. And I&#039;ve made my peace with that. The point is, my FI style is more about aggressively maximizing my Time rather than my Investment Income. There is a distinct point (early on, as you can see) when I want to &quot;cross over.&quot; I want to use that free time to explore ideas and philosophies, learn about human history and different cultures, create art, appreciate other people&#039;s art, go to museums, read the canon of literature&#039;s Great Books (a big one for me, because I love to read), enjoy films, take bike rides, hang out at the beach, spend an idle evening cooking and entertaining guests, volunteer for causes I believe in, etc. etc. Goodness, talk about nothing to do, there&#039;s too much to do! What pains me is that there isn&#039;t more time to do it all, and that I don&#039;t have FI now.

Sitting around spending the majority of my life working, accumulating more money than I really need, that&#039;s not for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adfecto<br />
&#8220;Sitting around with nothing to do is not for me.&#8221;</p>
<p>This assumes that there is &#8220;nothing to do&#8221; when one is not at work performing their job. Which is a rather dire way of looking at leisure time! If anything, wouldn&#8217;t you want to retire earlier on less, since even half of the projected 12-15 million should be sufficient to provide a very comfortable lifestyle? It would mean more years to enjoy &#8220;doing your own thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for me, I am currently 21 and starting out with nothing (zero inheritance, saved wealth, or financial/familial safety net). I plan on aggressively investing the bulk of my income, and retiring in my late 30s on approximately 500,000 in investments to support a very simple, frugal, minimalist lifestyle. I know, sacrilege! But what can I say: I&#8217;m an extremist when it comes to my worship of my leisure time. I only have approximately 40-50 more years on earth after that, if I&#8217;m lucky, and you know how life is&#8230; it&#8217;s short. And I&#8217;ve made my peace with that. The point is, my FI style is more about aggressively maximizing my Time rather than my Investment Income. There is a distinct point (early on, as you can see) when I want to &#8220;cross over.&#8221; I want to use that free time to explore ideas and philosophies, learn about human history and different cultures, create art, appreciate other people&#8217;s art, go to museums, read the canon of literature&#8217;s Great Books (a big one for me, because I love to read), enjoy films, take bike rides, hang out at the beach, spend an idle evening cooking and entertaining guests, volunteer for causes I believe in, etc. etc. Goodness, talk about nothing to do, there&#8217;s too much to do! What pains me is that there isn&#8217;t more time to do it all, and that I don&#8217;t have FI now.</p>
<p>Sitting around spending the majority of my life working, accumulating more money than I really need, that&#8217;s not for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@simplicity in kansas - I think one factor that keeps net worth from going down during downturns is that people keep adding savings. Personally I am breaking just about even e.g. portfolio drop for 2007 equals my savings resulting in no change in net worth. Those how have a higher net relative to earnings have seen a drop wheres those with high earnings relative to net will usually see their net increase at all time thus appearing very successful. Of course then there&#039;s the fact that not every blogger reports earnings and spendings (or net). Also not every person blogs. 

@adfecto - heh, I bet that&#039;s because you don&#039;t disagree as much as usual in this case ;-) It&#039;s interesting that you approach it as an optimization problem. This lead my to consider what I have been optimizing. I think the answer is independence or self-sufficiency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@simplicity in kansas &#8211; I think one factor that keeps net worth from going down during downturns is that people keep adding savings. Personally I am breaking just about even e.g. portfolio drop for 2007 equals my savings resulting in no change in net worth. Those how have a higher net relative to earnings have seen a drop wheres those with high earnings relative to net will usually see their net increase at all time thus appearing very successful. Of course then there&#8217;s the fact that not every blogger reports earnings and spendings (or net). Also not every person blogs. </p>
<p>@adfecto &#8211; heh, I bet that&#8217;s because you don&#8217;t disagree as much as usual in this case <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#8217;s interesting that you approach it as an optimization problem. This lead my to consider what I have been optimizing. I think the answer is independence or self-sufficiency.</p>
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		<title>By: Adfecto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adfecto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jacob,

imho this is your best post yet.  I think I fall into the &quot;late retirement&quot; category because I do plan to work until I&#039;m at LEAST 57 (my 100% income replacement crossover) but most likely until 62.  The catch is that I have started saving young enough and in large enough amounts that I will have amassed a huge amount of wealth ($12-15 million).  I will be free to spend significantly more at age 57+ then I do during my career. 

My goal is to maximize my lifetime financial potential.  Literally I will spend as much as I can (and have as much fun as I can) between now and when I die.  That of course requires investing now for maximum spending later.  I think I&#039;ve picked a plan that is the best route to achieve my goals (at least for me).  Sitting around with nothing to do is not for me.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jacob,</p>
<p>imho this is your best post yet.  I think I fall into the &#8220;late retirement&#8221; category because I do plan to work until I&#8217;m at LEAST 57 (my 100% income replacement crossover) but most likely until 62.  The catch is that I have started saving young enough and in large enough amounts that I will have amassed a huge amount of wealth ($12-15 million).  I will be free to spend significantly more at age 57+ then I do during my career. </p>
<p>My goal is to maximize my lifetime financial potential.  Literally I will spend as much as I can (and have as much fun as I can) between now and when I die.  That of course requires investing now for maximum spending later.  I think I&#8217;ve picked a plan that is the best route to achieve my goals (at least for me).  Sitting around with nothing to do is not for me.  <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m thinking you&#039;d put me in the &quot;just graduated&quot; collection of blogs.  I&#039;m not really in the &quot;get out of debt&quot; group, except that I am in debt...but it&#039;s not credit card/car loans/etc. debt like a lot of those blogs, it&#039;s student loans debt.
And yes, debt is debt, but I guess it&#039;s not that I was overspending like a fiend, I was just borrowing to go to college.

At any rate, cool blog...I found it through Well-Heeled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m thinking you&#8217;d put me in the &#8220;just graduated&#8221; collection of blogs.  I&#8217;m not really in the &#8220;get out of debt&#8221; group, except that I am in debt&#8230;but it&#8217;s not credit card/car loans/etc. debt like a lot of those blogs, it&#8217;s student loans debt.<br />
And yes, debt is debt, but I guess it&#8217;s not that I was overspending like a fiend, I was just borrowing to go to college.</p>
<p>At any rate, cool blog&#8230;I found it through Well-Heeled.</p>
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