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		<title>By: LiquidSapphire</title>
		<link>http://earlyretirementextreme.com/why-simplicity.html/comment-page-1#comment-32065</link>
		<dc:creator>LiquidSapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The older I get the more I appreciate voluntary simplicity.

Two examples:
1)  I sold my car, now I take the bus most places.  I no longer have to concern myself with the price of gas, shopping for car insurance, oil changes, random breakdowns.  (Well, buses break down, so I wait an additional 15 minutes for another bus.  Try getting a tow truck in 15 minutes.)  Life is actually simpler and in a way, less stressful.  

2)  I bought a piece of crap pottery wheel for $16.  I used it, I made a pot, it was fun.  Now I&#039;m done with it, but it&#039;s still fully functional.  I don&#039;t want to store it, I know I&#039;ll never use it again.  I don&#039;t want to throw it away, what a waste.  I don&#039;t want to return it; it just feels immoral.  It&#039;s been on the Free Stuff of Craiglist for a couple days now, no serious takers.  What the heck!  At some stage it&#039;s easier to just rent stuff or not buy it.  I almost regret buying it.</description>
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<p>Two examples:<br />
1)  I sold my car, now I take the bus most places.  I no longer have to concern myself with the price of gas, shopping for car insurance, oil changes, random breakdowns.  (Well, buses break down, so I wait an additional 15 minutes for another bus.  Try getting a tow truck in 15 minutes.)  Life is actually simpler and in a way, less stressful.  </p>
<p>2)  I bought a piece of crap pottery wheel for $16.  I used it, I made a pot, it was fun.  Now I&#8217;m done with it, but it&#8217;s still fully functional.  I don&#8217;t want to store it, I know I&#8217;ll never use it again.  I don&#8217;t want to throw it away, what a waste.  I don&#8217;t want to return it; it just feels immoral.  It&#8217;s been on the Free Stuff of Craiglist for a couple days now, no serious takers.  What the heck!  At some stage it&#8217;s easier to just rent stuff or not buy it.  I almost regret buying it.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would add to this: Increase the organizing methods in areas where it will add value to your life/business. Therefore it&#039;s usually a better idea to decrease your consumption on clothes, gadgets, etc.</description>
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		<title>By: keelphoto</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked this post...
I have done a lot of work on simplifying my life. Selling, Giving away and Throwing away stuff...
I haven&#039;t spent much time setting up systems or organizing the stuff that is left.
This post help articulate the need for more of the later.

Thanks Jacob!

The comments are very interesting as well. A lot to think about.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked this post&#8230;<br />
I have done a lot of work on simplifying my life. Selling, Giving away and Throwing away stuff&#8230;<br />
I haven&#8217;t spent much time setting up systems or organizing the stuff that is left.<br />
This post help articulate the need for more of the later.</p>
<p>Thanks Jacob!</p>
<p>The comments are very interesting as well. A lot to think about.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: DW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm.. Jacob on Oprah... sorry dear, that would just be painful, especially leading up to it ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm.. Jacob on Oprah&#8230; sorry dear, that would just be painful, especially leading up to it <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ruth - Hmm yes, I tend to get through the &quot;stress&quot; of the choice before I buy something. The main stress of owning my stuff is storage, not dealing with its usage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ruth &#8211; Hmm yes, I tend to get through the &#8220;stress&#8221; of the choice before I buy something. The main stress of owning my stuff is storage, not dealing with its usage.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re missing the psychological factor. Stress is caused not merely by not being able to find things quickly, but simply by having too many choices. &quot;Studies show&quot; that a person choosing from 3 shirts will be happier with their choice than a person choosing from 12 shirts.  

There are also the factors of money and the environment when it comes to stuff, but they&#039;re obvious.</description>
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<p>There are also the factors of money and the environment when it comes to stuff, but they&#8217;re obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Britz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jakob on Oprah would be great, and not even implausible if the book were to hit! 

@Jakob, re 2: lol :) Yeah, I was probably way too mind-numbingly lazy between highschool and uni... 
However, I&#039;m fairly sure that most people (not you!) are way lazier than they could be and that the IQ (and skills in general) of most people is much less than what they&#039;re potentially capable of. Like getting rid of fat, the answer to increasing skills and IQ is simple but painful: lots of exercise and effort. Easy for people to understand but not accept.

@Jakob, again: lol :D  Great cartoon, and spot on, especially right now for me, squirming away at a Banff workshop this week. At least it&#039;s easier to squirm together with other squirmers than to squirm alone in an easy crowd :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jakob on Oprah would be great, and not even implausible if the book were to hit! </p>
<p>@Jakob, re 2: lol <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Yeah, I was probably way too mind-numbingly lazy between highschool and uni&#8230;<br />
However, I&#8217;m fairly sure that most people (not you!) are way lazier than they could be and that the IQ (and skills in general) of most people is much less than what they&#8217;re potentially capable of. Like getting rid of fat, the answer to increasing skills and IQ is simple but painful: lots of exercise and effort. Easy for people to understand but not accept.</p>
<p>@Jakob, again: lol <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />   Great cartoon, and spot on, especially right now for me, squirming away at a Banff workshop this week. At least it&#8217;s easier to squirm together with other squirmers than to squirm alone in an easy crowd <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 13:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone else think Jacobs book has the potential to be a break out hit? (Think rich dad, poor dad).

I think he&#039;s got a shot.  If he can get the thing published while the economy is still in the toilet, I think that&#039;s only going to help with finding a receptive audience.

Jacob the bestselling author, coming to an Oprah book club near you:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone else think Jacobs book has the potential to be a break out hit? (Think rich dad, poor dad).</p>
<p>I think he&#8217;s got a shot.  If he can get the thing published while the economy is still in the toilet, I think that&#8217;s only going to help with finding a receptive audience.</p>
<p>Jacob the bestselling author, coming to an Oprah book club near you:)</p>
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		<title>By: Robyn</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okey dokey then, while y&#039;all do that, the who-knows-what-IQ librarian will be over at the closet purging things so she doesn&#039;t have to organize it again later :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okey dokey then, while y&#8217;all do that, the who-knows-what-IQ librarian will be over at the closet purging things so she doesn&#8217;t have to organize it again later <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a packrat with hoarding tendencies, I find that collecting and organizing things is the trivial approach, and can get me into trouble if I don&#039;t curtail it.  Downsizing is much more challenging.</description>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Britz - 
1) Yes, I think that generalizes what I said. My perspective is limited --- the extreme part :-D
2) If you know a universal method for increasing IQ by two standard deviations, methinks you&#039;re wasting your time on your multiplication tables 8-) --- go tell the world how to do it instead. Are you sure it wasn&#039;t latent and the increase came about from prior, uh, ... underuse ;-) One thing I&#039;ve noticed is that a vacation drops me by 10 points and a period of really intensive puzzle solving ups it by 10. I stayed pretty much where I was. BTW Britz and I was in the same undergraduate class(es), so whatever worked on him didn&#039;t work on me ;-)
3) Yeah, there&#039;s some theory that couples IQ and information theory in terms of the number of bits you have under your disposal to move around. Higher IQ means more bits as well as higher processing speeds. The human span is about an order of magnitude, same as with physical capabilities.

Compared to computers wetware is utterly pathetic, something of the order of 100 bits/second. This means that brain wiring is far superior to anything found in a computer; computers now being about as intelligent as insects. 

@physimatics - ... hehe and in physics, we call that factor &quot;cheating&quot;.

 @Britz again?! (Aren&#039;t you supposed to be working?). This cartoon is for you (and me): http://xkcd.com/602/ Normal people (if any normal people see the link) wouldn&#039;t relate (I checked). Anyway, the difference between math/phys and computer science is interesting. Consider the TeX book by Donald Knuth. This book is the most painful thing I have ever read. He is all over the place, I can&#039;t find anything. Clearly we think and organize our thinking in very different ways. Somewhere (maybe in another book) he mentions that he has no problem describing the (identically) same thing in five (slightly) different ways (and usually in different places too). This is opposite to physics which would describe slightly different things (inductively) in the same way. 

@Debbie M, brauhster - I&#039;m saying to design the system of parts and connections to solve the problem optimally. Such a system does not necessarily have the fewest parts possible. If you have two parts, you can make one two-part connection. If you have three parts, you can make three two-part connections (like the sides in a triangle) and one three-part connection. If you have four-parts, you have 6 two-part, 4 three part, and 1 four-part. If well thought out (in advance) this gives you a lot of flexibility compared to a simple system with fewer parts, where you have to devise new solutions on the spot. The problem in most designs is the tendency to increase parts without increasing connections. This was all very abstract. Replace parts with pieces of clothes and connections with outfits for an application.

@Kevin W - Yes, indeed. I have had my own problems selecting proper blog categories as the blog evolved. It is not an easy task.

@Robyn - Well, this blog is all about taking something very simple and making it very complex. Humans love that kind of stuff. For another example of overcomplexifying a simple problem, see the popular discussion on exactly how big one&#039;s &quot;emergency fund&quot; should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Britz &#8211;<br />
1) Yes, I think that generalizes what I said. My perspective is limited &#8212; the extreme part <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
2) If you know a universal method for increasing IQ by two standard deviations, methinks you&#8217;re wasting your time on your multiplication tables <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8-)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8212; go tell the world how to do it instead. Are you sure it wasn&#8217;t latent and the increase came about from prior, uh, &#8230; underuse <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  One thing I&#8217;ve noticed is that a vacation drops me by 10 points and a period of really intensive puzzle solving ups it by 10. I stayed pretty much where I was. BTW Britz and I was in the same undergraduate class(es), so whatever worked on him didn&#8217;t work on me <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
3) Yeah, there&#8217;s some theory that couples IQ and information theory in terms of the number of bits you have under your disposal to move around. Higher IQ means more bits as well as higher processing speeds. The human span is about an order of magnitude, same as with physical capabilities.</p>
<p>Compared to computers wetware is utterly pathetic, something of the order of 100 bits/second. This means that brain wiring is far superior to anything found in a computer; computers now being about as intelligent as insects. </p>
<p>@physimatics &#8211; &#8230; hehe and in physics, we call that factor &#8220;cheating&#8221;.</p>
<p> @Britz again?! (Aren&#8217;t you supposed to be working?). This cartoon is for you (and me): <a href="http://xkcd.com/602/" rel="nofollow">http://xkcd.com/602/</a> Normal people (if any normal people see the link) wouldn&#8217;t relate (I checked). Anyway, the difference between math/phys and computer science is interesting. Consider the TeX book by Donald Knuth. This book is the most painful thing I have ever read. He is all over the place, I can&#8217;t find anything. Clearly we think and organize our thinking in very different ways. Somewhere (maybe in another book) he mentions that he has no problem describing the (identically) same thing in five (slightly) different ways (and usually in different places too). This is opposite to physics which would describe slightly different things (inductively) in the same way. </p>
<p>@Debbie M, brauhster &#8211; I&#8217;m saying to design the system of parts and connections to solve the problem optimally. Such a system does not necessarily have the fewest parts possible. If you have two parts, you can make one two-part connection. If you have three parts, you can make three two-part connections (like the sides in a triangle) and one three-part connection. If you have four-parts, you have 6 two-part, 4 three part, and 1 four-part. If well thought out (in advance) this gives you a lot of flexibility compared to a simple system with fewer parts, where you have to devise new solutions on the spot. The problem in most designs is the tendency to increase parts without increasing connections. This was all very abstract. Replace parts with pieces of clothes and connections with outfits for an application.</p>
<p>@Kevin W &#8211; Yes, indeed. I have had my own problems selecting proper blog categories as the blog evolved. It is not an easy task.</p>
<p>@Robyn &#8211; Well, this blog is all about taking something very simple and making it very complex. Humans love that kind of stuff. For another example of overcomplexifying a simple problem, see the popular discussion on exactly how big one&#8217;s &#8220;emergency fund&#8221; should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Robyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with all due respect, I think this is being made too difficult :)

less stuff = less to organize and one gets to move on to other things in life.

or perhaps I&#039;m missing something.</description>
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<p>less stuff = less to organize and one gets to move on to other things in life.</p>
<p>or perhaps I&#8217;m missing something.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The subject of &quot;data structures,&quot; within computer science, is concerned with organizing large collections of discrete mathematical objects in an efficient way.

I think library science addresses the same sort of thing, but from the perspective of physical objects and human beings.</description>
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<p>I think library science addresses the same sort of thing, but from the perspective of physical objects and human beings.</p>
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		<title>By: brauhster</title>
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		<dc:creator>brauhster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is a drive for controlled complexity. I believe it is superior to downsizing.&quot;

I thought that downsizing was your 1st choice.  Am I misunderstanding the quote aboue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is a drive for controlled complexity. I believe it is superior to downsizing.&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought that downsizing was your 1st choice.  Am I misunderstanding the quote aboue?</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie M</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides increasing your IQ with practice as Britz described, you can also maximize your current IQ by doing things like getting enough sleep, exercise, and nutrients.

Back to the point of your post, I agree.  It would be easier to find things in my closet if I got rid of all the things I&#039;m not using and moved all my rarely used things elsewhere.  And even if I have way too much crammed into my closet, then knowing that all my blazers are together and that all the black ones are on black hangers makes it very easy for me to find a black blazer that is no longer showing in the front.  Especially if I have enough light.

So are you trying to say to downsize if you have to, but also to try to be creative about &quot;increasing the organizing methods&quot;?  If so, did you have any specific examples in mind?

A corollary is to use organizing methods that make sense to you even if they don&#039;t make sense to other people if they don&#039;t need to make sense to other people.  The obvious example is how you organize your music.  Is it alphabetical by artist (easy for anyone to deal with) or is it organized by period, mood, color, medium, or some other attribute(s) (see the movie &quot;High Fidelity&quot; for a good description of this--and also it&#039;s quite a fun movie).

Another example is spices (see the book or movie &quot;The Accidental Tourist&quot; for an example).  after trial and error what works best for us is to put all the spices normally used for sweet things (cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves, vanilla) together on the top shelf, and then alphabetize the rest except with all the peppers (black pepper, lemon pepper, chili powder, chipotle chili powder) together in the &quot;p&quot; section and all the salts (seasoned salts, salt substitutes) together in the &quot;s&quot; section.  This isn&#039;t confusing to us, even when using a &quot;sweet&quot; seasoning for a savory dish.  Making separate categories for things like Italian spices didn&#039;t work for both of us, though.

Hmm, you could also do a downsize/organize combination.  Like when I first come to work, I catch up on my e-mails.  So that&#039;s like downsizing my duties during e-mail time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides increasing your IQ with practice as Britz described, you can also maximize your current IQ by doing things like getting enough sleep, exercise, and nutrients.</p>
<p>Back to the point of your post, I agree.  It would be easier to find things in my closet if I got rid of all the things I&#8217;m not using and moved all my rarely used things elsewhere.  And even if I have way too much crammed into my closet, then knowing that all my blazers are together and that all the black ones are on black hangers makes it very easy for me to find a black blazer that is no longer showing in the front.  Especially if I have enough light.</p>
<p>So are you trying to say to downsize if you have to, but also to try to be creative about &#8220;increasing the organizing methods&#8221;?  If so, did you have any specific examples in mind?</p>
<p>A corollary is to use organizing methods that make sense to you even if they don&#8217;t make sense to other people if they don&#8217;t need to make sense to other people.  The obvious example is how you organize your music.  Is it alphabetical by artist (easy for anyone to deal with) or is it organized by period, mood, color, medium, or some other attribute(s) (see the movie &#8220;High Fidelity&#8221; for a good description of this&#8211;and also it&#8217;s quite a fun movie).</p>
<p>Another example is spices (see the book or movie &#8220;The Accidental Tourist&#8221; for an example).  after trial and error what works best for us is to put all the spices normally used for sweet things (cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves, vanilla) together on the top shelf, and then alphabetize the rest except with all the peppers (black pepper, lemon pepper, chili powder, chipotle chili powder) together in the &#8220;p&#8221; section and all the salts (seasoned salts, salt substitutes) together in the &#8220;s&#8221; section.  This isn&#8217;t confusing to us, even when using a &#8220;sweet&#8221; seasoning for a savory dish.  Making separate categories for things like Italian spices didn&#8217;t work for both of us, though.</p>
<p>Hmm, you could also do a downsize/organize combination.  Like when I first come to work, I catch up on my e-mails.  So that&#8217;s like downsizing my duties during e-mail time.</p>
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		<title>By: Britz</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Physicists and mathematicians are particularly bad at handling complexity and do everything in their power to simplify things to as reduced sets of rules as possible. This is pattern recognition or systematizing at work, not accepting and managing a complex situation. 
To test complexity management, put the average mathematician (like me) in a complex social setting, for instance, like a large and important reception or party with no friend or colleague for support. Here, it is usually not possible to reduce the situation to a set of manageable rules, so you will see the poor mathematician flounder, or at least squirm from incompetence :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Physicists and mathematicians are particularly bad at handling complexity and do everything in their power to simplify things to as reduced sets of rules as possible. This is pattern recognition or systematizing at work, not accepting and managing a complex situation.<br />
To test complexity management, put the average mathematician (like me) in a complex social setting, for instance, like a large and important reception or party with no friend or colleague for support. Here, it is usually not possible to reduce the situation to a set of manageable rules, so you will see the poor mathematician flounder, or at least squirm from incompetence <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: physimatics</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Physicists have been dealing with this problem for a long time.  The reason for complexity is to increase the accuracy of your predictions.  Newton was the greatest physicist of all time, in my opinion, due to him being the first person to gain the ability to predict/calculate motionand position of moving objects.  Without the purpose of predicting some variable complexity is useless.

When physicists try to predict gravity the majority of the time they use Newtonian mechanics.  Only when a very high order of accuracy is needed will a more complex framework be used. An example would be calculating the precession of Mercury or finding the effects of relativity on time in a GPS unit.

In the event that a system is too complex one can always apply a factor to the problem to account for the error.  In engineering we call it a factor of safety.

I hope this is helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Physicists have been dealing with this problem for a long time.  The reason for complexity is to increase the accuracy of your predictions.  Newton was the greatest physicist of all time, in my opinion, due to him being the first person to gain the ability to predict/calculate motionand position of moving objects.  Without the purpose of predicting some variable complexity is useless.</p>
<p>When physicists try to predict gravity the majority of the time they use Newtonian mechanics.  Only when a very high order of accuracy is needed will a more complex framework be used. An example would be calculating the precession of Mercury or finding the effects of relativity on time in a GPS unit.</p>
<p>In the event that a system is too complex one can always apply a factor to the problem to account for the error.  In engineering we call it a factor of safety.</p>
<p>I hope this is helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Britz</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would disagree with two points here:
1. Although stress will definitely occur if your capabilities are not up to the task, the stress usually occurs way before this point; in particular, you will feel stress as soon as you have to do more than you feel like or expect to do, which, for most people (for most people are lazy, me included) is much less than what they can actually do. 
2. You can increase your IQ (of most types) quite a bit (I went from 130-140 to 160-170 standard IQ points during the first three years of my maths studies), and coping with complexity is in fact something that adults learn with age, especially mothers, who are measurably much better at multitasking than males and women without children. 
3. Is there any proper correlation between IQ and the ability to simultaneously being able to juggle things in short term memory? I&#039;m not too sure about this, unless you mean something very specific. In fact, I would maybe even guess that great pattern-recognizing skills and systematizing skills are inversely correlated with multitasking skills, though one could of course buck the trend and be good at both (which I am certainly not :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would disagree with two points here:<br />
1. Although stress will definitely occur if your capabilities are not up to the task, the stress usually occurs way before this point; in particular, you will feel stress as soon as you have to do more than you feel like or expect to do, which, for most people (for most people are lazy, me included) is much less than what they can actually do.<br />
2. You can increase your IQ (of most types) quite a bit (I went from 130-140 to 160-170 standard IQ points during the first three years of my maths studies), and coping with complexity is in fact something that adults learn with age, especially mothers, who are measurably much better at multitasking than males and women without children.<br />
3. Is there any proper correlation between IQ and the ability to simultaneously being able to juggle things in short term memory? I&#8217;m not too sure about this, unless you mean something very specific. In fact, I would maybe even guess that great pattern-recognizing skills and systematizing skills are inversely correlated with multitasking skills, though one could of course buck the trend and be good at both (which I am certainly not <img src='http://earlyretirementextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t wait to read the book if you consider this blog &quot;full of holes&quot; and &quot;all over the place&quot;.  I consider this blog the most coherent and consistently good of ones I follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t wait to read the book if you consider this blog &#8220;full of holes&#8221; and &#8220;all over the place&#8221;.  I consider this blog the most coherent and consistently good of ones I follow.</p>
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